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Old 05-08-2007, 05:52 AM   #155
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Tweak the title of the thread?

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I hadn't read this thread until last night...the title of the thread *Corrosion* made me assume it was a discussion for older Airstreams. Typically, we read the posts from the *New Posts* page...not by topic. So neither my husband nor I had opened it. He was occupied with a project last night but I am SURE he will want to read it...and check our AS (ASAP)!

We store our AS indoors about 15 miles from our house. There is a sprinkler system in the building...so I assume the owners need to heat the building slightly in the winter to keep the lines from freezing.

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Old 05-08-2007, 05:57 AM   #156
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Not a bad suggestion...I'll talk with one of the mods today about a possible title change for the thread.
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Changes made....thanks Jack!
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. There is a sprinkler system in the building...so I assume the owners need to heat the building slightly in the winter to keep the lines from freezing.

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Before next winter gets here you should confirm this. Some sprinkler systems are dry and filled with air.
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Old 05-09-2007, 06:32 AM   #159
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Ok, I heard back from Alcoa. Not any particular answer that I was looking for, but at least they responded. Problem is, the Airstream dealers are worse off in knowing about this than the factory, and the factory has zero long terms solutions...... Here is what Aloca said:

.... thanks for your comments. We've passed them on to the
manufacturing team to inform them of this situation.

Your best bet for specific answers on your product will continue to be
your Airstream dealer.

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Old 05-10-2007, 12:02 AM   #160
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Materials Specialists at Airstream

I don't have the strength to view the whole thread, but anyone posted this article yet? I am sorry if it is a repeat, otherwise I think that Mr. Jessup is the man at Airstream who has the responsibility to help solve this materials issue. The article sure is hyping his fine skills.

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Old 05-10-2007, 01:21 AM   #161
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I don't have this problem. I can see on my taillight housings where it appears the clearcoat has vanished but the metal is still umblemished.

I notice several differances between my trailer and yours John. First I only have the factory radio that we don't use. No T.V. or upgraded audio. Secondly as you know I don't wash the trailer. I don't know if these things matter or not. I'm just throwing it out.
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Old 05-10-2007, 02:55 AM   #162
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Corrosion

My 2003 has those white lines around almost every marker light and many areas near factory attached fixtures, ie: the exterior A/C power outlet, the telephone/cable tv interface etc. It looks like some kind of tool or scribe was used during manufacture to 'work' the silkaflex (sp?). But I also have a spot about the size of a quarter on the street side skin that has become bare. The same clear finger nail polish soluton was given me by Aistream. Doesn't sound like world-class quality to me.
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Old 05-11-2007, 11:08 AM   #163
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I called Paul Sherry, my dealer yesterday, and they were unaware of this problem. They did confirm that the rusting license plate light housing has always been a problem though.

I was directed to contacting AS directly.

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Old 05-11-2007, 12:04 PM   #164
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I've purchased 3 new A.S. trailers in as many years. The 05, 22CCD Had a terrible corrosion problem and leaked so badly that I never got to use it.
The 06, was the best of all ( fewest problems ).
The 07, 25CCD has already been treated once for corrosion at the factory. It's worse than ever now.
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Old 05-11-2007, 01:04 PM   #165
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Hi Dennis. Thanks for posting. Like you, I've had more than one. My first didn't have corrosion problems, but nearly everything else (minus leaks) was just not right about it. My current unit had a punch list 3 pages long. Airstream was great about fixing those items and replacing my cast tail lights and rims, but that is little comfort as I watch my outside shell, like yours, look like something out of a spider man movie. I have to say, it takes moxie to have one Airstream as bad as your first, move onto a second, with a better exp, back to yet a third and this.....

Keep 'em coming folks, I've lost count, but I will tally it up at some point. I've also noticed a thread or two that CanoeStream mentioned earlier in this thread that also have even more folks with this issue who haven't posted here, but also have the issue.

Jonathan, please let us know what headway you make with the factory. I may send another email to Mr. Schumann to see if I get any response, then I may call. I don't really know what I hope to accompish with it, other than documenting the issue has been brought up the food chain.
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Did a quick inspection of the CCD the other day and found about 5 rivets that were 'filiformed' with the surrounding areas, maybe 5-10 millimeters in diameter. They wrere adjoining rivets on the street side front panel.

Add this to the 2 tail light bezels that were replaced AND the exterior handle at the entry door. That is REALLY bad, and I will be stripping AND re-clearing it after polishing.
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Old 05-12-2007, 11:44 PM   #167
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Silvertwinkie,

Don't waste your money at P&S. They do good work but, the clearcoat they are spraying is no better than new. My trailer was resprayed in 2002 and stored inside until I bought it. Has been stored outside since but, not in direct sun. Big waste of money, should have accepted the oxidation and kept my money in the bank.

I now would only consider taking it to the west coast and get it sprayed with aircraft epoxy paint.

Have you tried to contact the retired airstream employee who used to be incharge of spraying. I understand he is in Oregon? I think he might fill in a lot of reasons for current problems starting with the EPA.
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Funny you should mention paint, I was talking with janavera about that as an option, based on what we saw done on BigAl's Airstream. The paint job was so good, you'd hardly notice it was painted until you got really close to it. Thanks for the tip on stripping and re-clearing. It was a thought, but I have learned from many who have contacted me that it too is a temp solution. I can't seem to understand why Airstream shells are so hard to protect. I know the auto industry is not a good comparison, but how the hell do they keep their clears and finishes from doing this? How can they not have their rims and alum parts corrode this way, in some cases 6 months after rolling off the line? Seems to me that the engineer at Airstream tasked with materials research really needs to talk to some folks out in the field and really get crackin' on this one. It would seem to me, without trying to sensationalize this, that this is a MAJOR issue and this is just from folks that are here on this forum. Think of the folks that have yet to even find this forum that have a late 1999 to current model year. I think the issue is far more reaching than anyone at the factory or on this forum realized a few years back. I forget the production numbers, but if say Airstream builds roughly 1000 trailers a year, we have the potiential of about 8000 more or less trailers that can and may have their exterior finishes fail in what I consider, and others may agree, is premature (units say between 6 months and 5 years) failure. I don't think anyone feels these finishes would last forever, but I think most would agree that 5 years before major issues is reasonable, yet by luck of the draw, you're unit may or may not show the issue or if it does, it may show it different levels. I thought my unit was bad, but some of what I've seen on this thread alone, clearly shows me, I've got it not as bad as some......

I'd talk to just about anyone that could help find a way that either slow or stop the root cause of this (sanding and putting clear nail polish all over my Airstream is NOT a fix in my book), but I think we all have a fairly good idea what is causing the bulk of this and I think the basic theme here is disturbed coating during the manufac process since the lion's share of the corrosion on the body is at rivets or where trim or accessories were cut, punched, etc to the skin. The cast alum tail lights, rims, etc, could be a whole different cause, but my main concern personally is the body. That is the hardest fix with none of the current methods really all that great in terms of options.
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