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06-24-2015, 05:26 PM
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#2161
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4 Rivet Member
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Overland Park
, Kansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 365
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They said that sometimes when they pull the old ones off that the wires could break and be hard to fish out. They did seal the new ones, don't think u would want to take them
Back off, or I wouldn't. I'm not 100% sure but I think the wires were not cut
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06-24-2015, 07:46 PM
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#2162
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
Carlsbad
, California
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 706
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Thanks. Trying to visualize it. I guess if you turn the assembly the right way it might fit through the base. I will call JC tomorrow and discuss the issue with them. Maybe it's best for me to do the work myself and fix it right the first time, corrosion X and nyalic then new bases and caulk them. I am feeling a bit of wonder though. Why do I have to do this with a new AS?
Then I console myself or try to anyway. It's a cool trailer you know, work the bugs out......
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06-24-2015, 10:03 PM
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#2163
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Slympicins
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Sevierville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 80
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That was my question as well. You pay $70k for a top of the line trailer that they know has issues with this corrosion and yet they don't change up their manufacturing process to cure it? Anyone have any ideas why they don't correct this issue?
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06-24-2015, 10:10 PM
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#2164
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
Carlsbad
, California
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 706
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Well, maybe I'll be able to ask that question tomorrow.
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06-25-2015, 08:19 AM
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#2165
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,577
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoublTrouble
Well, maybe I'll be able to ask that question tomorrow.
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I doubt you will be happy with the answer, but please let us know what you hear.
Thanks!
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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06-25-2015, 09:09 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
Carlsbad
, California
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 706
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The word from JC is sent some pics well see how we can help.
This is the filiform bible from Ohio. So far they are listening and seem to be willing to give some help.
Filiform corrosion is a natural process that occurs in aluminum. Although we try to combat the issue with a coated aluminum and we have had better success in recent years after switching to the coated aluminum, over time, some problem areas can arise. These are usually seen where the body panels flex during transit and where the clear coat has been chipped. Once the corrosion has started, there is no real way to completely remove it, other than to replace the affected panel. That being said, there are things you can do to combat the spread of the issue.
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For treatment of corroded areas you should take the following steps (all the products mentioned below are available through our online store)
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1.****** Remove the clear coat over the affected area. We recommend using a plastic scraper to prevent any damage to the aluminum.
2.****** Clean the affected area with denatured alcohol.
3.****** Using the product Corrosion-X (part # 90102W) applied to a soft cloth, wipe over the affected area, clean any excess off of the area.
4.****** Using the acrylic touch up pen (part # 90000W-03) go over the affected area to cover where the clear coat was removed. (for larger areas, you can also use a spray acrylic)
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To prevent the issue in the future, I’ve attached an aluminum coating care guide that should help. We recommend washing the unit frequently and applying a protectant at least twice a year. You can use anything that is clear coat safe. You can also use the product T9 Boeshield (part # 90012W) on the seams and any other areas that may have an issue in the future. You just spray it on and it creates a protective layer on problem areas.
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Exterior care:
http://www.walbernize.com/
https://store.airstream.com/product-...d-maintenance/
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https://store.airstream.com/product-...sories/page/5/
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Parts:
http://www.airstream.com/service/manuals/
http://airstreamsupply.com/
http://inlandrv.com/
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06-25-2015, 09:48 AM
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#2167
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2 Rivet Member
2015 28' Flying Cloud
Melbourne Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 43
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You can expect corrosion on the rear aluminum brake light castings after around 6 months in FL.
Best recommendation is to live with it. If you grind it off it comes back.
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06-25-2015, 10:30 AM
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#2168
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
Carlsbad
, California
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 706
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Thanks, we know, a fix is in this thread. I can "deal" with that. The skin is my main concern ....
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06-25-2015, 05:50 PM
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#2169
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
Carlsbad
, California
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 706
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Kingsmen,
Somewhere in here are pictures of the tail lights that were sanded , polished and re clear coated. Robert Crosse and Howard L. are incredibly in touch maybe intimate is a better adjective, with this topic. I will personally call them the "gurus" of all things, leave it at that. I think you'll find a step by step in this thread, I tried to find it for you but I'm a little worn at this point.
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07-01-2015, 05:02 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
Carlsbad
, California
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 706
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Kingsmen,
You will find some discussion here around post # 1089, 1114, 1141 to begin.
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07-08-2015, 03:23 PM
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#2172
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AIR #6370
2001 27' Safari
Bella Vista
, Arkansas
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 68
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I've got a similar problem with a 2001 Safari. I sanded the spots with 800 grit, carefully cleaned the spots with paint thinner or acetone. I found that using Tester's model silver paint and an artist brush did about the best.
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07-08-2015, 03:27 PM
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#2173
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AIR #6370
2001 27' Safari
Bella Vista
, Arkansas
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 68
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I wonder if Jackson Center has ever considered using a low voltage sacrifial cathode.
If the Navy and Air Force uses something like that then why can't Jackson Center?
OK you techies, what are your thoughts? Any ideas?
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07-08-2015, 04:03 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hmsteader
I wonder if Jackson Center has ever considered using a low voltage sacrifial cathode.
If the Navy and Air Force uses something like that then why can't Jackson Center?
OK you techies, what are your thoughts? Any ideas?
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It's not galvanic corrosion.
Filiform
Bob
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07-08-2015, 06:43 PM
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Slympicins
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Sevierville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 80
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One would think a very good clear coat, or several coats, would help stop the inevitable process.
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07-09-2015, 08:23 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 30' Flying Cloud
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 681
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slympicins
One would think a very good clear coat, or several coats, would help stop the inevitable process.
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It does, but see the quote below and the rest of Bob's link above about corrosion.
((Filiform corrosion is minimized by careful surface preparation prior to coating, by the use of coatings that are resistant to this form of corrosion (see above), and by careful inspection of coatings to insure that holidays, or holes, in the coating are minimized.))
Problem is that even though our Alcoa baked on clear coat stops oxidation and corrosion of the AL, it also provides a path for filiform if it is scratched, damaged or missing. That is why you follow owner and Johnson Ctr. ideas here to inspect your trailer regularly and stay ahead of the problem. In short, treat any small area found with corrosion x, then reseal with a touch up of clearcoat. I still also recommend a full touch up of all exposed aluminum panel edges with Clearcoat. (Especially important with a new trailer--edges and rivet holes are not coated since AS cutting, forming, and drilling are done after Alcoa clearcoating).
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07-11-2015, 03:48 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,694
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And move to the desert. Best preventative of all. Even here I have some corrosion on the taillights and door hinges, but after all this time, I don't much care (second solution). We've been so busy, we haven't washed or waxed it for 3 years and that may help cover over any further corrosion. There's always a simple solution or three to a problem, though the move to the desert may not be that simple.
Hi, Bob. I guess the snow's finally melted in western NY.
Gene
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Gene
The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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07-11-2015, 05:05 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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Hi, Bob. I guess the snow's finally melted in western NY.
Gene
Yep....all gone.
Bob
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07-11-2015, 05:29 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,694
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Bob, did you go over the falls?
Bob Sunrus is going your way and I expect you both to post some photos of your meeting.
Gene
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Gene
The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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07-13-2015, 08:17 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,367
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gene
And move to the desert. Best preventative of all. Even here I have some corrosion on the taillights and door hinges, but after all this time, I don't much care (second solution). We've been so busy, we haven't washed or waxed it for 3 years and that may help cover over any further corrosion. There's always a simple solution or three to a problem, though the move to the desert may not be that simple.
Hi, Bob. I guess the snow's finally melted in western NY.
Gene
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Hi, right now traveling and enjoying life is way more important than a pretty/perfect looking Airstream. Getting closer to Robert Cross's place; Now if we can park on his front lawn with full hookups for a week? Need good WIFI too. I hear he has a train collection too.
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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