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Old 08-07-2013, 10:45 PM   #1471
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Will my tailights on my trailer have this issue...would prefer to just dodge that bullet entirely if possible?
From about mid-model year 2012 they began using a thicker gasket so the light frame does not contact the exterior shell. That's our problem as I am aware of it and we had repaired at Jackson Center.

The problem seems to begin when they first started the new LED clearance lights, sometime during 2010 and through early 2012 models years, all models except Classics which use a different light fixture.

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Old 08-08-2013, 05:11 AM   #1472
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Pretty sad really...seems JC just keeps getting it rong.
How hard is it to find and install a quality clearance or tail light assembly.

Guess they just need 50 more years of "improvements" instead of meaningless changes.

Took me a couple years to get the c-lights waterproof, if i ever want LED's I'll just change the bulbs.

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Old 08-08-2013, 07:52 AM   #1473
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Pretty sad really...seems JC just keeps getting it rong.
How hard is it to find and install a quality clearance or tail light assembly.

Guess they just need 50 more years of "improvements" instead of meaningless changes.

Took me a couple years to get the c-lights waterproof, if i ever want LED's I'll just change the bulbs.

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They got it rite, have a high quality LED clearance light on the Classic models, the premium lights come with the premium trailer. Anyone can upgrade later if they want.

While on a trip last fall we stopped at JC, they replaced all of our faulty FC clearance lights with the high quality Classic lights at no cost to us because of the failure of the originals. They sealed both the light frame to the shell, and lens to the light frame. No leaks or corrosion.

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Old 08-08-2013, 08:15 AM   #1474
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I just painted my WH door to try it. It looks a LOT better. I still love the stainless though. The furnace and water heater covers are $103.95 +shipping each. The exhaust vent is $128.95
Roger Williams RV did have the stainless WH, furnace, and vent hood for about $20 each a while ago. Not sure if they have any left but I did all 3 and they look great. Ken was the guy to talk to in parts.
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They got it rite, have a high quality LED clearance light on the Classic models, the premium lights come with the premium trailer. Anyone can upgrade later if they want.

While on a trip last fall we stopped at JC, they replaced all of our faulty FC clearance lights with the high quality Classic lights at no cost to us because of the failure of the originals. They sealed both the light frame to the shell, and lens to the light frame. No leaks or corrosion.

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Ok....so it's cheaper for AS to only put the "good stuff" on the one model trailer?
Telling someone spending 50k that they'll have to buy the special light option if they want to avoid corrosion and leaks is not really a good business model.(I think)
Seems to me one for all would be the less costly option, after all they all use clearance lights, (outsourced), even the dreaded SOB's.

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Old 08-08-2013, 11:12 AM   #1476
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No no Bob, trying to say they use better components on the premium model, cheaper components on the cheaper model. And they are standing behind their screwup on the first LED attempt.

I'm here to let others know what I have learned, and to learn from them.

Most of the new ones are well over $50k but I wouldn't compare them to a $25k SOB or a $500k MH except they all provide shelter. Go to a quality RV park these days and a new Airstream is on the low end of the price scale, even with a nice truck to pull it. You'll have a lot less mobile RV repair guys visiting you than the expensive rigs as well.

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Old 08-08-2013, 11:21 AM   #1477
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Roger Williams RV did have the stainless WH, furnace, and vent hood for about $20 each a while ago. Not sure if they have any left but I did all 3 and they look great. Ken was the guy to talk to in parts.
I think the super-sale parts are all gone - I bought one of the last vent hoods from them, and the other parts were sold out at that point.

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Old 08-08-2013, 12:32 PM   #1478
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so just to reiterate Doug - you think my new AS will come with an acceptable fix...possibly? Otherwise, perhaps it would behoove me to request JC to put the classic fixtures on and avoid the whole hassle...

But, if this fix they did you mentioned before seems reasonable and it all looks good, then no worries. I certainly do not mind when spending this kind of money spending a few more bucks to avoid an annoying problem that is for sure...

I need to go back through this thread and find the comparison photos of the non-classic LED fixture and the classic....
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:38 PM   #1479
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Thanks for the info Howard. Maybe I'll try it and see what happens.

Can't look worse than the grey. Our shower door is painted some bad match color which is just starting to flake, so that would be the place to start.

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if you would like our plastic shower unit you can have it . Since we replaced it with stainless steel it is just sitting in the shed. We purchased the trailer new last August and it was stored inside all winter so the shower door is in good shape.
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Thanks dkrug, but the door is ok, just the paint starting to flake. Easier to paint than replace.

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All, thanks for this thread. My 2010 27FB Flying Cloud, with a build date of February 2010, has the LED clearance lights. I've seen no corrosion as yet, but all the same, I'm contacting the factory to see what should be done.
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Old 08-11-2013, 08:38 PM   #1482
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so just to reiterate Doug - you think my new AS will come with an acceptable fix...possibly? Otherwise, perhaps it would behoove me to request JC to put the classic fixtures on and avoid the whole hassle...

But, if this fix they did you mentioned before seems reasonable and it all looks good, then no worries. I certainly do not mind when spending this kind of money spending a few more bucks to avoid an annoying problem that is for sure...

I need to go back through this thread and find the comparison photos of the non-classic LED fixture and the classic....


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Doug may know for sure, but the above gasket is the one I think they now use on the standard non classic trailer running lights. The bushing/gasket base sits under the sharp edge of the metal light base, thus insulating light from skin. This fix should solve the problem. They first sent me 11 of these for my owner fix to my problem. I rethought and asked for the classic outer ring bases instead and JC agreed. My classic bases will now be dealer installed. I would ask your dealer to check on the gaskets with JC to be sure. No upgraded gaskets no sale. Hell make sure they are there.

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PharmGeek, I have looked at the 2013 Airstreams and they have the new, thicker gaskets that hold the light frame out away from the shell.

Howard has it right, that gasket should do the trick to prevent the light frame/shell contact that initiates the corrosion.

I am still suspicious the Sport, FC, and Int'l LED fixtures from late 2010 on may be prone to water getting inside the lens because several have reported it, including our new Airstream. I think the only reason our new Classic replacement fixtures aren't leaking is because they are sealed both between shell and fixture, as well as between fixture and lens. That is the factory method on the Classics.

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So then I'll email the dealer to ensure that JC puts on proper gaskets and just keep an eye on it for water inside...

IF I were to notice water - I would demand the classic upgraded fixtures

Thanks for advice and heads up!!
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