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Old 07-22-2013, 03:09 PM   #1429
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I have one remaining question still not answered. Is there a silver paint that matches the Alcoa skin color to allow for better blending where corrosion repairs are made to the skin/panel edges or elsewhere? My repairs covered with clear coat come out darker that Alcoa skin. Robert used Thomas Stainless Steel paint and it matched pretty well. I'm trying to find out if there is something even better. A couple of online hobbyists have used different types of Chrome paint and complained that when you clear coat, it turns the chrome to a shiny aluminum look. That may be just what we would be looking for. Going to try a couple of out of the way places on the trailer and will post results if they are worth anything.
Howard, I was curious, what clearcoat did you end up using? I saw that Rustoleum makes a stainless steel paint in both spray and brush on. Also Krylon and Seymour make a spray. I was thinking of trying Rustoleum on mine in a test area. Have you tied any of these? I also ordered a Nyalic clearcoat kit to try as well.
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I haven't had any new filiform outbreaks lately, (a benefit of an older trailer I guess). Plus a lot of anal trailer maintenance.

I haven't used this on the AS yet, but I do plan a test on the bare aluminum on the lower unit of our boat motor. I'll try a test patch on an out of the way place on the AS at the same time. Stay tuned.

I've found stopping the spread is pretty easy, finding a texture/color match.....not so much.

I used Rustoleum 7714 Aluminum brush-on for the pealing door hinges. (not filiform just crappy clear application).



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Old 07-22-2013, 05:47 PM   #1431
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I used Rustoleum 7714 Aluminum brush-on for the pealing door hinges. (not filiform just crappy clear application).



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Bob, That looks great. I was curious though, why did you use the Rustoleum on the door hinges instead of the Thomas Stainless that you used on the panels?
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:00 PM   #1432
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Howard, I was curious, what clearcoat did you end up using? I saw that Rustoleum makes a stainless steel paint in both spray and brush on. Also Krylon and Seymour make a spray. I was thinking of trying Rustoleum on mine in a test area. Have you tied any of these? I also ordered a Nyalic clearcoat kit to try as well.
I tried several hobby paints, "Tester" was one, in silver and aluminum. They came out dark like the bare metal. I wanted to try Ace's Aluminum paint, but can't find it on line and no Ace near me--I've used it on Aluminum outriggers and remember it to be shiny. Ordered a spray can of Krylon, Dupli Color and VHT Plate Finish Chrome to try. The Nyalic works real well. It is thin and if you spray, go light with several almost mist coats. Acetone will take it off if you screw up. Until it cures after a week or so, Alcohol will also. It's a little shinier than Alcoa's coat, but so minimal that you don't notice. Before treating all seams and rivets with Corrosion X, I cleaned and then, with artist brush, Nyalic recoated all exposed seam edges to try to stem the tide on what happened in the photo.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:03 PM   #1433
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Steve,

The Thomas' SS paint has a has a very slight metalflake look that I felt wouldn't match as well on a larger area.

I am surprised at how well the water based product has lasted though, 4 Seasons so far.

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Old 07-22-2013, 08:27 PM   #1434
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I wanted to try Ace's Aluminum paint, but can't find it on line and no Ace near me--I've used it on Aluminum outriggers and remember it to be shiny.
Thanks for the info about the Nyalic. I looked all over today for the Rustoleum SS paint and others but couldn't find it at Ace, OSH, Lowes or Home Depot. I may have to order it online. One tip I read about SS Paint while doing some research on this was to allow the paint to dry slightly, then give it a directional brush with a very fine dry bristle brush. This should give the appearance of grain pattern that stainless steel and our AS aluminum panels have.

As far as the Ace aluminum paint, it's pretty close but slightly darker. It lacks the "glow" of the clearcoated alcoa panels, but I don't know if this may be rectified somewhat by clearcoating it. I recently painted my old, stained, hot water heater cover with it and this is what it looks like without the clearcoat.
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The Thomas' SS paint has a has a very slight metalflake look that I felt wouldn't match as well on a larger area.

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Bob, Thanks for that. I am going to redo my hinges too, and was thinking about using the Thomas's SS paint, but I think I'll keep looking.
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2008 must have been one of the golden years of Airstream marker lamps. We've had no problems with ours (or with our vent pipes leaking at the roof, another common problem). I suspect Airstream went on another cost cutting binge and cheapened the lamps and now has to spend more money fixing the problem. Coat cutting has cost the company money many times in the past and will apparently do so as long as the present executives continue in power at Thor.
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Hi Gene,

I am glad to hear that your 2008 has been OK with these issues, but my 2008 has leaked at the plumbing stack/vent gaskets. I was lucky to discover that when I installed our solar panels.

My marker light assemblies get water vapour inside every once in a while. Changing the screws & O-rings hasn't helped but I haven't had the energy to chase this to ground yet. The lights work consistently so haven't been super fussed about this issue.

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Old 07-23-2013, 09:02 AM   #1437
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The vents have been fine, but the bathroom fan has leaked several times, but enough Sikaflex has stopped it (finally) after several times of slopping gobs of it around the fan on the roof.

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Old 07-27-2013, 12:20 PM   #1438
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filiform skin repair

Every silver touch up paint I've tried will not match Alcoa skin color all the time. Each paint will, in certain light reflective situations, almost disappear. In others it will show dark, even worse that the bare skin that was sanded and re-clear-coated. JC tech support is working on finding a contact at Alcoa that might be able to offer some advice with this repair. The Alcoa clear coat is baked on, don't know what if anything that has to do with the glowing silver look our trailers have, but JC tech support does not believe there is any type of coating applied to the AL prior to clear coat. Will update findings if and when.
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Every silver touch up paint I've tried will not match Alcoa skin color all the time. Each paint will, in certain light reflective situations, almost disappear. In others it will show dark, even worse that the bare skin that was sanded and re-clear-coated. JC tech support is working on finding a contact at Alcoa that might be able to offer some advice with this repair. The Alcoa clear coat is baked on, don't know what if anything that has to do with the glowing silver look our trailers have, but JC tech support does not believe there is any type of coating applied to the AL prior to clear coat. Will update findings if and when.
Exactly what I've found.

Durability is what I'm looking for now. Maybe I'll find a match by mistake.

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I'm still working on it too. My Nyalic clearcoat came in the mail yesterday...very quick shipping by the company I must say....I'm going to work on some ideas and experiment this week.
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It's obvious that if the filiform is still a small area, the slight scraping of the area and a Corrosion X repair is best as the end result shows least. But on larger areas, I just can't stand leaving it staring you in the face, even if Corrosion X or T9 shield puts a temporary stop to it. Seemed like over night (after a couple weeks at the S. Texas beach) I had the one panel show corrosion along one complete edge (repair shown below-bare metal with clear coat ). That is where I hope we can find a surface color match some way. The aluminum strip below is of several silver/aluminum paints I tried after clear coating. No real match and clear coating, does make every paint darker.
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Dirt is the solution to unmatched paint. Being so busy this year, we haven't washed and polished the trailer. Dirt really helps. It also helps cover up the sloppy job I did of sealing with Acryl-r.

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