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Old 10-19-2007, 11:59 AM   #15
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I agree with every point made in the above post.

Traded in our corner bed for a 25 FB.
The 25 FB or better yet the 27 FB! You'll love it!

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Old 10-19-2007, 12:08 PM   #16
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I probably should not mention my sheet changing method, but... Put fitted bottom sheet around mattress, lift mattress and move self underneath, yank outside-wall side of sheet under mattress, climb out from under mattress, and then proceed "normally." I have gotten so used to it that it seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to do. My wife sometimes watches the procedure, but not so often. Once that sheet is on, everything else is quite straightforward.
CUTE - I however replaced the mattress in my 22 CCD with an expensive HEAVY innerspring one. I rigged a nylon strap that runs under the mattress and attaches to the front of the plywood under the mattress. It has three feet to spare at the back. I grab the strap, pull the mattress upright, put the fitted sheet on the far side, drop the mattress and proceed normally. I leave everything else untucked from personal preference... my tootsies like freedom. I can even turn the mattress over side to side because I had it made with both sides curved (when I want to turn it end to end - I put my head in the opposite direction.... it's just easier.)

On my 25footer when I replaced the mattress I went with 7" foam - much lighter.

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Old 10-19-2007, 12:14 PM   #17
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Why is Airstream making the 25SS or anything with a corner bed.....marketing ploy so you buy two trailers?
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:22 PM   #18
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I however replaced the mattress in my 22 CCD with an expensive HEAVY innerspring one.

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Paula,

Our Bambi came with a heavy innerspring mattress. Maybe that is why my wife lets me do this procedure. Your method sounds, however, better than mine. I will have to go out and look to see if I can duplicate it in our trailer!

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Old 10-19-2007, 04:05 PM   #19
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Paula,

Our Bambi came with a heavy innerspring mattress. Maybe that is why my wife lets me do this procedure. Your method sounds, however, better than mine. I will have to go out and look to see if I can duplicate it in our trailer!

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You can buy nylon strapping by the foot at Handcock fabrics, or if you know a good junkyard, just cut out a passenger seatbelt (used less than the driver's). I think I used about 8 to 10 feet. Only problem was anchoring it to the plywood. Ended up using three screws to get it really tight. On the grabbing end I made a loop with a diameter of about six inches, so I could hold it easily. Nylon strapping won't go through any home machine so your options are to take it to a shoe repair place and have them sew it down ("x" and "box" pattern) or do it by hand using waxed dental floss. If you choose to do it by hand use a piece of leather to push and pull the needle... and take aspirin afterwards for the pain. I couldn't make the finger for three days!

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Old 10-19-2007, 04:40 PM   #20
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Paula,

Your description makes it easy to copy what you did. The sewing is not a problem. We have a sewing machine which will sew through anything with ease. And never let them tell you a man should not use a sewing machine. It is a powertool!

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Old 10-20-2007, 01:15 PM   #21
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We had a 25' SS and traded for a 27' FB
One of the reasons for the trade was the corner bed...really only roomy enough for 1 1/2 people! Make sure you're ok with the bathroom. The toilet IS A joke! Try sitting on the can with the door closed and you'll see what I mean. Go with the 25 or 27 FB...you won't be sorry.
We also traded our 25' SS for a 27' FB primarily due to the corner bed and the toilet. The corner bed was extraordinarily difficult to make. Sleeping in it made my wife feel claustrophobic. Having a wall next to the head end of the bed on both sides made the already small width seem even smaller. (I often sleep with my arm haning off the side but couldn't.) The bed might have been okay for one person.

I also agree completely with MILLVALLEYCA's comments on the toilet in the SS. We spent a lot of money making the trade to at 27' because we were so uncomfortable in the SS.
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:39 PM   #22
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We also traded our 25' SS for a 27' FB primarily due to the corner bed and the toilet. The corner bed was extraordinarily difficult to make. Sleeping in it made my wife feel claustrophobic. Having a wall next to the head end of the bed on both sides made the already small width seem even smaller. (I often sleep with my arm haning off the side but couldn't.) The bed might have been okay for one person.

I also agree completely with MILLVALLEYCA's comments on the toilet in the SS. We spent a lot of money making the trade to at 27' because we were so uncomfortable in the SS.
How long did you have your 25"SS? We had our's for about 5 months.
Extremely happy with our 27 FB
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Old 10-20-2007, 06:44 PM   #23
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How long did you have your 25"SS? We had our's for about 5 months.
Extremely happy with our 27 FB
Actually about the same amount of time as you did (5 months). We collected a settlement from hail damage and rolled that into the trade. It is amazing how much more comfortable we are in the 27.
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Old 10-20-2007, 07:20 PM   #24
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Hi All! Thanks for all the great posts! I've been reading them all with great interest over the past day or so.

It's clear that, given the option, a full queen or twins is preferred over a corner bed. But after reviewing all of our requirements we decided that our only option was to buy the 2001 25 SS that our dealer had, and thus settle for the corner bed.

Our circumstances are that we needed to be able to sleep 4 in relative comfort so a dedicated dinette in the 25 SS model was the only way to do that. There are almost no recent model used 27 footers on the market around here and since we couldn't afford a new one, and wanted to keep it less than 30 feet and didn't want a vintage unit, for us right now it was this 25 SS or nothing. (The dealer indcated they only get a 1 or 2 recent model SS units on trade a year so we didn't think we had much of a choice.) Fortunately this particular unit was in excellent condition and setup exactly the way we would have ordered it.

More to the point, however, my DW and I spent most of the day lounging in the trailer, checking out the storage and bed and decided we could live with the corner beds "shortcomings", although we're likely going to upgrade the mattress to a heavy spring model or memory foam so when one of us tosses/turns it won't affect the other to the same degree. (the existing posture pedic mattress is very light and doesn't isolate sleep motion well).

Anyway, the paperwork is signed and in two weeks we'll be the proud owners of a new-to-us 2001 Safari 25 SS. As you would expect we're quite excited and hoping we might be able to take it our for its maiden voyage before the snow flies!

Our retirement dreams include buying a new Airstream Classic which will, no doubt, have walk-around queen bed. But we're hoping the 25 SS will work well until our kids leave the nest.

Excited new Streamers in Ontario...
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Wife and I do well with the corner bed in our 22AS, although when our oldest grandaughter saw the interior, she asked wife "So Nana, Where is Papa Bob going to sleep?"

We're upsizing to a Safari 27FB SE but it's not because of the sleeping accomodations. We want more living room.

Been trying to find the floorplan online to upload a link but been unsuccessful.
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:45 PM   #26
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Congratulations Gary and Deb on your new Airstream! Happy Airstreaming.



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Wife and I do well with the corner bed in our 22AS, although when our oldest grandaughter saw the interior, she asked wife "So Nana, Where is Papa Bob going to sleep?"
...so just how large IS Papa Bob!!! LOL (kidding)

Seriously, if we were buying new, the Safari 27 SE would be our first choice too - but that puppy will have to wait for our retirement! In the meantime we'll use the 25SS as a test to see how we like the Airstream experience. At this point it's hard to imagine we'll be disappointed though.
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Congratulations Gary and Deb on your new Airstream! Happy Airstreaming.
Thanks Carol!!!

BTW we've been wanting to try Ludington SP for years - hope to finally make it next year and compare it to The Pinery PP here at home.

Cheers!
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