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02-11-2010, 11:16 AM
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#921
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by utee94
I know that Uwe brought the trailer to Austin during a couple of summers, and he reported that the A/C did just fine here. We don't have the same humidity that you get on the coast, but Austin is definitely not a low-humidity environment. So if it did well here, I'm guessing it would do well just about anywhere.
-Marcus
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It did quite well, even during what I consider pretty extreme humidity, Austin in July. It did have a tendency to freeze up if I tirned it to all the way cold, something that didn't happen in our mostly dry climate.
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02-11-2010, 11:19 AM
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#922
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goransons
Hey UWE, where did you come across that vent cover seen in the bottom photo (in post 871)?
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I did not end up using that vent cover, instead I used an eyeball type vent from an architectural a/c supply house.
This particular vent cover is an aluminum louver for use in mobile homes etc. It typically has three louver sections, but can be cut and trimmed easily. What you see there is one of three sections.
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03-10-2010, 12:22 PM
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#923
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3 Rivet Member
1964 26' Overlander
Gloucester
, Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 167
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Uwe, Bravo...thats the only thing that comes to mind. You are inspiration to us all.
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03-10-2010, 09:40 PM
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#924
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
, Washington
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,512
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uwe
I did not end up using that vent cover, instead I used an eyeball type vent from an architectural a/c supply house.
This particular vent cover is an aluminum louver for use in mobile homes etc. It typically has three louver sections, but can be cut and trimmed easily. What you see there is one of three sections.
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Wow, delayed response from me, my attention span isn't worth beans lately... What was I going to say, oh yes great idea on the vent and I'll be checking the parts houses for one to cut up!
Thanks for the lead!
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VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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03-11-2010, 09:31 AM
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#925
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Rivet Master
1965 28' Ambassador
Irving
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 604
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Your 65 Safari Tanks
Quote:
Originally Posted by uwe
I did not end up using that vent cover, instead I used an eyeball type vent from an architectural a/c supply house.
This particular vent cover is an aluminum louver for use in mobile homes etc. It typically has three louver sections, but can be cut and trimmed easily. What you see there is one of three sections.
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Uwe,
I love the info on the 63 and your Area 63 blog(Your work is exceptional).On the 65 Safari Project I am interested in the tanks.I have a 65 Ambassador and want to install gray and black tanks new.The stock tanks available are all too deep to fit in the 4 and 6in. frame space.What was the depth of yours and what was involved in fitting these.I see in the pics additional lower brackets welded to the frame.Did you just make a new bellypan portion to fit over the tanks and does everything run inside the bellypan?This is what my two areas look like for the tanks.The heating vent will be removed.
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03-12-2010, 09:27 AM
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#926
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bwaysteve
Uwe,
I love the info on the 63 and your Area 63 blog(Your work is exceptional).On the 65 Safari Project I am interested in the tanks.I have a 65 Ambassador and want to install gray and black tanks new.The stock tanks available are all too deep to fit in the 4 and 6in. frame space.What was the depth of yours and what was involved in fitting these.I see in the pics additional lower brackets welded to the frame.Did you just make a new bellypan portion to fit over the tanks and does everything run inside the bellypan?This is what my two areas look like for the tanks.The heating vent will be removed.
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I use tanks that go right under the floor, and at the lowest point allow for waste pumbing to go under the frame. The lowest point is about 2-3in below the frame. The tanks are sloped towards the drain, so not all of it sticks down that low.
I studied new installations from Airstream, and learned that theirs stick down REALLY low. So, this, I feel, is a good compromise between functionality and aesthetics. Some fabrication is always required. The tanks could be enclosed for very clod climates, but in most cases I allow the bottom of the tank to be tightly surrounded by belly pan segments, while the sloped part just sticks down. So far, I have had no problems whatsoever with this.
I convert to a dual dump valve cluster, which then routes grey and black water via 2 dump valves to a single 3" outlet.
Check plastic mart, they have waste tanks that you can adapt easily.
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04-28-2010, 03:44 PM
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#927
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
1957 22' Custom
1963 16' Bambi
Vacationland
, Maine
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 956
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Uwe living large!
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04-28-2010, 04:55 PM
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#928
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Rivet Master
1957 22' Caravanner
Port Hadlock
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 864
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That's a really nice article. I've learned a lot from Uwe's thread.
Little error in the link, it's: Lee Schneider: Living Large in an Airstream
Thanks for posting this.
cheers,
steve
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04-28-2010, 06:11 PM
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#929
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Rivet Master
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1956 30' Sovereign of the Road
1963 16' Bambi
Southeastern Area
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by safari62
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pbearsailor
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Yes, thanks! Loved the embedded video too, that was stellar. Uwe, your work is awesome and I love your perspective. Totally cool.
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04-28-2010, 08:39 PM
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#930
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Rivet Master
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,640
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Great video, thanks for sharing.
And so many thanks to Uwe for remaining so accessible and helping us all to benefit from your experience.
And now, I have an excuse to go back and re-read this thread, which will forever be among my favorites. The very reason I have a 63 for me, too.
-Marcus
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04-29-2010, 10:43 AM
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#931
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Minor Glitch
We're not full timing in our Overlander, as the article states. Not that we couldn't, or wouldn't want to, but it's not time yet....
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04-29-2010, 11:32 AM
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#932
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
1957 22' Custom
1963 16' Bambi
Vacationland
, Maine
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 956
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uwe
We're not full timing in our Overlander, as the article states. Not that we couldn't, or wouldn't want to, but it's not time yet....
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I think working on many Airstreams and then occasional camping trips in your spare time with your Airstream could be considered "Full timing"
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07-07-2010, 02:51 AM
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Crazy Montanan in Texas
Currently Looking...
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 167
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Uwe, just spent over an hour going through the whole thread, nice build, I really liked the way it turned out. I also like your AC system, I like the fact that you don't have the big box poking out the roof, it gives your trailer a really clean appearance.
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05-18-2011, 01:01 PM
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#934
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2 Rivet Member
1965 22' Safari
Gerlach
, Nevada
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 91
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uwe
That was about a year ago, and included sales tax and all the little nickle dime feees the CA DMV imposes if you walk in with anything but a perfect transaction.
An out-of state trailer that was last registered in the 70's in WA definitely imposes a huge challenge to unsuspecting CA DMV clerks. At one point 3 or 4 of them were staring at the paperwork, undecided on what to do. Then the inspectors gave it their blessing and all went well, sans the $ 200.00 fee.
Fortunately I purchased a one trip permit in WA to move the trailer to CA. It was good for a week of travel, which allowed me to legally tow it to the DMV for registration and inspection.
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Technically your supposed to get a trip permit in each state your pulling it though. Lucky they didnt get onto you for that. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.
C.
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1965 Safari - 1987 F250 4x4 | Member Black Rock Desert Rats 4x4 club | AIR #53724 | TAC NV-3
1997-Current Burningman Participant / 1999-Current Staff member.
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05-19-2011, 01:44 PM
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#935
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Rivet Master
1976 Argosy 24
now being enjoyed by Heath and Mary in
, Vermont
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,432
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don't have the big box poking out the roof, it gives your trailer a really clean appearance
Beast,
Another way you can do that is with a split air system:
Uwe could probably do that if a customer wanted it.
Sergei
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05-20-2011, 08:45 AM
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#936
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by safari62
I think working on many Airstreams and then occasional camping trips in your spare time with your Airstream could be considered "Full timing"
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I guess you are right. Except it's been a while since I had time to enjoy mine. It has been sitting in Albuquerque since Balloon Fiesta 2010. I am hoping to bring it back to CA after the 4CU restoration Rally next month.
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05-20-2011, 08:52 AM
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#937
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBeast
Uwe, just spent over an hour going through the whole thread, nice build, I really liked the way it turned out. I also like your AC system, I like the fact that you don't have the big box poking out the roof, it gives your trailer a really clean appearance.
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That was my intent. The benefits are that the center of gravity is lowered somewhat, making for a more stable tow experience. The lack of weight on the roof is also a definite plus for longevity of the entire shell. The A/C is eerily quiet, also. Nothing rattles or shakes, since it has sound deadening material applied to it. The performance is good, comparable to a roof top unit.
In my line of work, I have since discovered purpose built units for hidden installation inside furnishings or moho basements. These include heat pumps, which gives this effort even more purpose. Venting and installation is much simpler with these units. They can fit into the space of a Bowen water heater ( for perspective) and use about the same size opening in the shell. So far, I do not regret modifying this window AC back in 2003 or so. It has served me very well, the few times I needed it.
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05-20-2011, 09:17 AM
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#938
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Rivet Master
1971 21' Globetrotter
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Arvada
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,527
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uwe
I have since discovered purpose built units for hidden installation inside furnishings or moho basements. These include heat pumps, which gives this effort even more purpose. Venting and installation is much simpler with these units.
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More info please.
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07-24-2011, 11:35 AM
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#939
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Rivet Master
1966 26' Overlander
Woodstock
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,525
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Uwe- I have been looking through this thread- and don't see a photo of the a/c install. Can you share one or point me towards it? Thanks I am wanting to try this set up or the RideAir window a/c set up, which is temporary but seems to work well. Thanks
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09-16-2011, 01:34 AM
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#940
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2 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Winder
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 34
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Just spent almost two days reading this thread. Absolutely amazing to see start to finish. This should be published! Perhaps could help to recoup some costs? Thanks for sharing, this definitely provides great inspiration for a newbie like myself-
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