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Old 02-12-2006, 09:54 AM   #533
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Nice!!!

hey uwe- your progress is enviable, your work beautiful! Someday I MUST meet the 2 of you- are you going to the international in Salem? Right now, if I were to go, I'd have to pull my coach in back of my bicycle like what's his name. Do you get much out of California, out towards Colorado? -tim
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Old 02-12-2006, 09:59 AM   #534
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hey uwe- your progress is enviable, your work beautiful! Someday I MUST meet the 2 of you- are you going to the international in Salem? Right now, if I were to go, I'd have to pull my coach in back of my bicycle like what's his name. Do you get much out of California, out towards Colorado? -tim
Tim,

I have not decided on the International. I believe it interferes with a trade show that I want to attend.
We will definitely join the VAC Rally in Colorado this summer, if our schedule allows. Last year it was being held at Colorado Springs. Not sure where they will have it this year.
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Old 02-12-2006, 07:40 PM   #535
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Your stainless steel makes me go "OOoooooooo".
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Old 02-18-2006, 08:51 AM   #536
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Your stainless steel makes me go "OOoooooooo".
Thanks, Ingrid. It made me go "ooouccch!" a few times when the razor sharp edges tried to sever important limbs. few passes with the grinding wheel, however, took care of this.
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Old 02-18-2006, 09:06 AM   #537
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News: the plumbing is going in. I have successfully plumbed the galley, and freshwater supply including the water heater. The lines are ready to be extended to the bathroom, where the tub is already plumbed, the vanity sink and faucet are ready to go next. Of course I ran out of 90 degree flair-it fittings to make a clean installation. Originally I though that the tubing would make bends with large radiuses, but it seems more comfortable doing mild curves instead of sharp bends...so be it.
I find the PEX and Flair-it fitings to be a great system. Being low on plumbing skills, it is very easy to work with, and very easy to change when making a mistake.
The grey water vent pipes are also in place, but the black tank vent still needs to be finished.

Question: How important is the vent hood for the stove? I have one, but it is not installed yet. I sort of like the look without it, it is much cleaner and more open. There is a fantastic fan right above in the galley ceiling. Would that be enough to expell cooking odors? Or is it the moisture from cooking we want to get rid of?
As I recall, the stove vent in my 71 TradeWind was not that effective.
What is your experience with the vent hood? Any alternate suggestions?
Has anyone used or seen a very interesting solution?

The plan for today is to install the tub faucet and shower diverter, and then start roughing in the rest of the tubing. Film at eleven.
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Old 02-18-2006, 10:56 AM   #538
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How great is it to get your plumbing done. I hope to be there some day. I plan on Pex also. Do you have any suggestions or things you would have done different with pex now that you have some experience with it. I don't have a vent on my Bambi, just a window right behind the stove and a passive vent in the roof with a hood, No fan. The refer is below the stove and just vents out the back of the trailer. It appears to me that these trailers were designed for fair weather. My understanding is that If the refer is running the back window is to be left closed. I am going to investigate creating a vent pipe system that will run in between the inner and outer skins. I don't know if I will have much success. If you are interested I could share ideas with you.
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Don,
My skin has an outside vent with a roughly 3x3 square passage. It is located right underneath the roof locker inteh galley, a little bit off center to the left of the stove. I did not cut the vent hole in the stainless backsplash yet. I guess Im a really looking for a nice looking vent hood/fan solution.
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I plan on Pex also. Do you have any suggestions or things you would have done different with pex now that you have some experience with it.
I like the system with PEX tubing and Flair-it fittings a lot. A friend sugested CashAcme shark fittings, which apparently will work with pex or copper. I will have to take look and see what they're all about. I am, however, almost finished, and don't want to change fitting styles now. I guess the drawback might be that the Flair-It fittings seem sort of pricey.
Otherwise, a wonderful system.
I am going to use 1/2in insulation covers for the hot water tubes, and where there is risk of chafing the tubing arounda corner etc.
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My 75 TW has Pex with the flair-it fittings and I think they are great. I corrected a small error that a PO made when the Pex was installed and the only advise I have is, don't make any errors! Once you seat the pipe on the fitting, they do not come apart with out heat and pressure. If you dip the pipe in very hot water for a few seconds, it will slide right on to the fitting. If I had to do it myself the only thing I would do differently would be to use different colors for the hot and cold. If the PO had done that, he would not have attached the city water line to the hot water. I bought my fittings from http://www.pexconnection.com , yes they are a bit pricey. I also used a PVC pipe cutter. It worked great.
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Old 02-18-2006, 06:29 PM   #542
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I am going to use 1/2in insulation covers for the hot water tubes, and where there is risk of chafing the tubing arounda corner etc.
At Home Depot there are lengths of plastic ribbed tubing available to protect pipes from damage. I have some over my oil tank line at home. I have seen different diameters.

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I like the system with PEX tubing and Flair-it fittings a lot. A friend sugested CashAcme shark fittings, which apparently will work with pex or copper. I will have to take look and see what they're all about. I am, however, almost finished, and don't want to change fitting styles now. I guess the drawback might be that the Flair-It fittings seem sort of pricey.
Otherwise, a wonderful system.
I am going to use 1/2in insulation covers for the hot water tubes, and where there is risk of chafing the tubing arounda corner etc.
I don't understand about the insulation covers and the chafing. Could you include some pictures or further explanation?
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I don't understand about the insulation covers and the chafing. Could you include some pictures or further explanation?
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Don,
I do not have any pictures of the plumbing yet. But, it's easy to explain.
The insulation is the hollow lightweight foam tubing that you have certainly seen at HD or Lowes. Long foam sticks, like swimming noodels, hollow in the middle. It wraps around he pipe and insulates it from hot or cold.
In my case, I want to keep the hot water hot inside the tubing, even though it might not matter that much in the trailer. A secondary purpose for the insulation is rattle and chafing prevention.
The pump causes a vibration in the tubing, caused by the hammering of the water pressure. Where ever the tubing is near a wall, or laying against the inner skin, I want to dampen the contact spot by slipping in a small section of the foam insulation to keep things nice and quiet. I will add an accumulator to make it even quieter if necessary.
My installation also runs around quite a few corners and through walls. Whereever there is a tight bend or direct contact with a metal corner etc, I will install a pad to make sure the tubing does not rub through over time.
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Uwe,

I love reading this post. Keep it up!

I found this link yesterday. They may help with pump vibration.

They have them for Aquajet and ShurFlo.

Last fall, when winterizing, I used the flexibile faucet connector hoses with the braided stainless covering from Lowes and the pump is still really loud. We don't use the pump much anyway as we always try to get full hookups, but I will eventually swap it out for something quieter.

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Shizzit!

The picture came from http://www.rvwaterfilterstore.com/Pumps.htm

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