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02-08-2006, 05:34 PM
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#521
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Originally Posted by A-Merry-Can
just curious, uwe, why did you go with tung oil, and not a lacquer or poly sealer? i was planning on using lacquer on mine. seals great, but might not allow emough expansion and contraction... not really sure. the environment of a trailer is far harsher on wood than a home would be, due to temperature and humidity swings.
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Jordan,
I tried a bunch of different finishes. The prettiest was guitar lacquer, but that stuff will shrink and crack over time. It is also rather fragile, and difficult to touch up. The HD finishes ( poly wood finish etc.) all looked the same, basically plasticky with little depth.
I found the polymerized tung oil finish to produce a rick, deep sheen, not too shiny, not too dull after 4-5 coats.
It's little more work to apply, but it does not require anything but a rag and some steel wool. It brings out a classy amber color in the maple, and equalizes different pieces of wood very nicely.
So, to answer your question, there's 2 reasons: Look of the finish and ease of touch up.
If an area should get damaged, it's very easy to just lightly sand it and apply tung oil over it, making the scratch literally disappear.
The key here is to get polymerized tung oil, regular tung oil does not produce a shine, and takes FOREVER to dry. I found this out the hard way.
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02-09-2006, 09:28 PM
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#522
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Rivet Master
1963 16' Bambi
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Yreka
, California
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,313
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Tail lights
Uwe, how are your tail lights connected? Did you change the connections? My thread has more details on this question.
Don
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02-09-2006, 09:46 PM
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#523
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NorCal Bambi
Uwe, how are your tail lights connected? Did you change the connections? My thread has more details on this question.
Don
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Oivey...I don't remember the exact color codes..I did not change the hookup, to my best knowledge. There are 2 lamps in each tallight, that much I remember. I would have to take a look tomorrow and see how it all goes together. Sorry I can't be of more help tonight.
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02-10-2006, 09:55 PM
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#524
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Friday's update
Not much happened in the last few weeks, first a trade show got in the way, then a severe flu bug. Today, however, I felt much better and decided to do a little re-acquanting with the Overlander.
I finished trimming the stainles overlay for the vanity, and then cut out the recess for the stainless steel sink. Whew - stainless steel, even when sliced paper thin, is a whole different animal than aluminum. It yields to specialty tools only, none of which I currently own or have access to. So, I ended up using my Makita small grinder with a thin metal cutoff wheel to trim the edges, and cut out the hole for the sink.
I took some photos for those of you that like visual aids..
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02-10-2006, 09:59 PM
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#525
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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More photos
The photos below and the ones from the last post were taken through the wide open rear window, shooting towards the front of the trailer.
Iposted similar pictures before, but never from this direction.
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02-11-2006, 05:49 PM
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#526
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Saturday, 2-11-06
I finally found a faucet for the vanity:
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02-11-2006, 05:56 PM
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#527
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Backsplash
After cutting the hole for the faucet, I figured since I made a mess already, I might as well continue and cut the stainless back-splash. I am pleased with the look, not too much metal for what I am looking for; a warm vintage feel.
Geez - - it's like working with a huge razor blade. One little careless move, and there's blood everywhere...kudos to Johnson & Johnson for their BandAid product.
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02-11-2006, 09:09 PM
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#528
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Rivet Master
1963 16' Bambi
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Yreka
, California
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,313
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Great work. By looking at your pictures I'd say that every drop of blood was worth the effort. I am really enjoying your sense for design. Keep the photos coming.
Don
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02-11-2006, 10:25 PM
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#529
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4 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Lowell
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 435
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I've been so self-absorbed with my own efforts lately that I only ever look at the beginning parts of this thread; where you're lifting the body, installing water tanks, etc (all the stuff I'm doing now).
But now that I've seen what you've done with the interior..... amazing work!!
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02-11-2006, 11:42 PM
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#530
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Rivet Master
1965 17' Caravel
1968 28' Ambassador
Butte
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,201
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I just wanted to say Uwe great work ! 21,000 views on your thread not to shabby ! I wish that I had the patience for the fine art of finish work. A job well done sir.
Chris
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02-12-2006, 07:27 AM
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#531
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3 Rivet Member
1963 24' Tradewind
Pittsford
, New York
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 121
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DuoTHerm 39335.541 - electric only or dual?
I have a 63 and am interested in the DuoTHerm 39335.541 as well. Does this also run on Propane or is it electric only?
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Originally Posted by Over59
Uwe
How does that basement AC install look. Can do or no can do? Sure would like to be able to do that in my 59.
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02-12-2006, 08:48 AM
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#532
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sigv
I have a 63 and am interested in the DuoTHerm 39335.541 as well. Does this also run on Propane or is it electric only?
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Here is a page with the specs for the unit: http://www.aaarvappl.com/39335.541rep.htm
It does not run on propane, 20A electric service is minimum.
I ended up using a large 120V window A/C unit instead of the DuoTherm basement a/c. I modified the air discharge vents to accomodate ducting, so that I can channel the cold air to areas in the front. I also modified the drip pan so that it drains through the floor, through thebelly pan, to the outside.
It was unable to locate the Duo Therm unit locally, and it was important to me to see the unit and lay my hands on it before I buy it. I found one local dealer, but they did not even want to pull it off the shelf in the warehouse for me to look at. Too bad for them, I had cash in pocket.
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02-12-2006, 08:54 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 27' Overlander
Longmont
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 951
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Nice!!!
hey uwe- your progress is enviable, your work beautiful! Someday I MUST meet the 2 of you- are you going to the international in Salem? Right now, if I were to go, I'd have to pull my coach in back of my bicycle like what's his name. Do you get much out of California, out towards Colorado? -tim
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02-12-2006, 08:59 AM
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#534
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tphan
hey uwe- your progress is enviable, your work beautiful! Someday I MUST meet the 2 of you- are you going to the international in Salem? Right now, if I were to go, I'd have to pull my coach in back of my bicycle like what's his name. Do you get much out of California, out towards Colorado? -tim
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Tim,
I have not decided on the International. I believe it interferes with a trade show that I want to attend.
We will definitely join the VAC Rally in Colorado this summer, if our schedule allows. Last year it was being held at Colorado Springs. Not sure where they will have it this year.
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02-12-2006, 06:40 PM
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#535
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Alameda
, California
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,570
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oooooooh
Your stainless steel makes me go "OOoooooooo".
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02-18-2006, 07:51 AM
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#536
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkflamingoes
Your stainless steel makes me go "OOoooooooo".
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Thanks, Ingrid. It made me go "ooouccch!" a few times when the razor sharp edges tried to sever important limbs. few passes with the grinding wheel, however, took care of this.
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02-18-2006, 08:06 AM
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#537
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
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News/Questions
News: the plumbing is going in. I have successfully plumbed the galley, and freshwater supply including the water heater. The lines are ready to be extended to the bathroom, where the tub is already plumbed, the vanity sink and faucet are ready to go next. Of course I ran out of 90 degree flair-it fittings to make a clean installation. Originally I though that the tubing would make bends with large radiuses, but it seems more comfortable doing mild curves instead of sharp bends...so be it.
I find the PEX and Flair-it fitings to be a great system. Being low on plumbing skills, it is very easy to work with, and very easy to change when making a mistake.
The grey water vent pipes are also in place, but the black tank vent still needs to be finished.
Question: How important is the vent hood for the stove? I have one, but it is not installed yet. I sort of like the look without it, it is much cleaner and more open. There is a fantastic fan right above in the galley ceiling. Would that be enough to expell cooking odors? Or is it the moisture from cooking we want to get rid of?
As I recall, the stove vent in my 71 TradeWind was not that effective.
What is your experience with the vent hood? Any alternate suggestions?
Has anyone used or seen a very interesting solution?
The plan for today is to install the tub faucet and shower diverter, and then start roughing in the rest of the tubing. Film at eleven.
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02-18-2006, 09:56 AM
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#538
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Rivet Master
1963 16' Bambi
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Yreka
, California
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,313
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How great is it to get your plumbing done. I hope to be there some day. I plan on Pex also. Do you have any suggestions or things you would have done different with pex now that you have some experience with it. I don't have a vent on my Bambi, just a window right behind the stove and a passive vent in the roof with a hood, No fan. The refer is below the stove and just vents out the back of the trailer. It appears to me that these trailers were designed for fair weather. My understanding is that If the refer is running the back window is to be left closed. I am going to investigate creating a vent pipe system that will run in between the inner and outer skins. I don't know if I will have much success. If you are interested I could share ideas with you.
Don
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02-18-2006, 10:14 AM
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#539
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Don,
My skin has an outside vent with a roughly 3x3 square passage. It is located right underneath the roof locker inteh galley, a little bit off center to the left of the stove. I did not cut the vent hole in the stainless backsplash yet. I guess Im a really looking for a nice looking vent hood/fan solution.
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02-18-2006, 10:18 AM
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#540
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NorCal Bambi
I plan on Pex also. Do you have any suggestions or things you would have done different with pex now that you have some experience with it.
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I like the system with PEX tubing and Flair-it fittings a lot. A friend sugested CashAcme shark fittings, which apparently will work with pex or copper. I will have to take look and see what they're all about. I am, however, almost finished, and don't want to change fitting styles now. I guess the drawback might be that the Flair-It fittings seem sort of pricey.
Otherwise, a wonderful system.
I am going to use 1/2in insulation covers for the hot water tubes, and where there is risk of chafing the tubing arounda corner etc.
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