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Old 05-28-2004, 08:05 PM   #15
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keep posting pictures I like the commentary too.
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Old 05-28-2004, 10:22 PM   #16
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I think you're missing a critical brake part. There's supposed to be a long broomstick that goes from the driver's right shoulder, over the passenger seats, through the back window of the Suburban, and attaches to the brake lever.
Aha! See, there's a guy that knows his Airstreams!
Must trade in Suburban to get model with no barn doors....
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Old 05-29-2004, 12:36 PM   #17
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Got all the registration work done yesterday, might get a plate for it that reads "Luftzug" ( Airstream in German)
The CA DMV charges hefty, btw. I paid $ 197.00 to get this registered. It was $ 140.00 for use tax, because i did not lie on the bill of sale. Had to take it down to DMV for a VIN verification.
Uwe, so when we tow ours home, what exactly did the DMV ask you for to get it registered? Did they want you to weigh it? or just the VIN verification; is there anything else I need to worry about? I will have the bill of sale and the title when I go to the DMV.

Everyone's just...running out and getting Airstreams...and here I sit, clicking, typing, waiting, clicking, typing, waiting...

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Old 05-29-2004, 03:03 PM   #18
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Cool Calif DMV experiences

When we brought ours home from TX, we determined that local DMV office did not usually have 8 free parking spaces for casually pulling in and parking. We also observed parking lot filled with recent arrivals to US who could barely manage to drive within parking lot, and were bumping into each other rather regularly..

We downloaded DMV "Verification" form from their web site, and took trailer to local Police dept, where they did complimentary verification of VIN Numbers, plate, year built, etc and signed off form..

That allowed us to go back to DMV minus trailer carrying just papers and do our thing even without appointment. Back to mid-1980's, DMV computers have "bluebook" values in system, and those drive "Use Tax" and registration fees often despite info on billl of sale.. Before that, declared value determines how much you pay, and CA wants about 8+ % of that in addition to $39 in actual licensing fees... There are times, however, where a curious and entertained DMV Clerk (one who loves old trailers..) can be a real process improvement..

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Old 05-29-2004, 06:09 PM   #19
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Uwe, so when we tow ours home, what exactly did the DMV ask you for to get it registered? Did they want you to weigh it? or just the VIN verification; is there anything else I need to worry about? I will have the bill of sale and the title when I go to the DMV.

Everyone's just...running out and getting Airstreams...and here I sit, clicking, typing, waiting, clicking, typing, waiting...

Ingrid,
The title is most important. CA DMV will not register any vehicle with a bill of sale only, at least not one from out of state.
Bill oof sale helps, but is not absolutely necessary, as you will have to fill in a form they supply and it has all the petinante information on it.
If you have owned the vehicle over 90 days, and then bring it in, then you might not have to pay use tax, depending on who's at the counter.
You have 20days after you bring it home to get it legal, whether you are going to use it or not.
Just drag it down to DMV, get a VIN verification done, and stand in line to get them to take your money and give you a plate.
VIN verification needs no appointment. Just drive up to where they do the driving exams. I was told that it's the same in most towns.
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Old 05-29-2004, 06:13 PM   #20
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When we brought ours home from TX, we determined that local DMV office did not usually have 8 free parking spaces for casually pulling in and parking. We also observed parking lot filled with recent arrivals to US who could barely manage to drive within parking lot, and were bumping into each other rather regularly..

We downloaded DMV "Verification" form from their web site, and took trailer to local Police dept, where they did complimentary verification of VIN Numbers, plate, year built, etc and signed off form..

That allowed us to go back to DMV minus trailer carrying just papers and do our thing even without appointment. Back to mid-1980's, DMV computers have "bluebook" values in system, and those drive "Use Tax" and registration fees often despite info on billl of sale.. Before that, declared value determines how much you pay, and CA wants about 8+ % of that in addition to $39 in actual licensing fees... There are times, however, where a curious and entertained DMV Clerk (one who loves old trailers..) can be a real process improvement..

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AAA would not do it, and the DMV tech claimed that we must bring it down for the verification. I should have cross checked his info, I guess.
But it was no problem, and there is a DMV just a few blocks from my shop.
The 8 spaces was a definite coincidence, I have never seen their parking lot this empty. I gues they do a lot on appointment basis now, so there are fewer people in the building. The clerk even spoke fluent English this time around.
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Old 05-29-2004, 06:37 PM   #21
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Congradulations - great find.

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Old 05-29-2004, 06:49 PM   #22
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Thanks, Ken. It is rough inside, and structurally weak, but has a good shell and frame, which will only require small repairs. I am excited to breathe life back into this heap.
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Keep us posted - as you may know I'm currently into my 58 is a big way - have torn out the interior, new cabinets, next project is dropping the belly - far as I'm concerned the worst part of restoration - wear lots of protective gear for all the junk that comes out.

I've got some structure problems I'm in the process of figuring out - the PO cut my cross members to put plumbing through (don't know why I never thought of that) anyway need to put all that back together, then I think I need to refasten the floor/shell - think I have "shell" seperation, if I jump up and down on the inside, the walls tend to bow - don't think thats supposed to happen.

Soooooo really looking forward to hearing about your restoration fun!

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Ken,
I am preparing to remove the shell, repair the frame, install plumbing and tanks, replace the entire floor, and then replace some outside skin sheets to remedy huge furnace and water heater holes. I hate patches.....I want this one clean, with no compromise in quality of restoration. If it takes few years, so be it.
Once the substantial repairs are done, I will create a wonderful interior space, leaning on teh warmth of the original interior, but updating all the functional items. I want to use baement A/C built under the stove, where the furnace was, so as to not disturb the roof line. I also want a modern remote start water heater and refrigerator. The fresh and grey tanks will be under floor, like in my 1971, the black tank might stay where it was originally designed, in the right rear on top of the floor.
I will add all new wiring, recessed lights ala CCD, dimmers, and 2 fantstif fans for the rear and middle vent respectively. The window treatments might end up being 1in taped wooden blinds, with aluminum blinds in the bath. I want to keep the trailer's interior open, and spacy. A convertable L-shaped couch will go in the front. I have not worked out the dining table detail yet....both sides in teh front have windows reaching down very low, which does not permit a wall mounted folding table. Maybe a free standing folding table woul d work. Need Ideas!
Well ,I will keep posting my progress.
I got the 71 in the meantime for camping and travelling. Everything works in the 71, and it's got a new floor in the bathroom, as well as new almost everything. Most likely I will keep both trailers, even though the are close in size. I will end up loaning the 71 to my kids when we all go out together. One of them needs to buy a tow rig soon...
Maybe we'll see you on the way to Colorado Springs. Good luck with your '58!
Sounds like your shell is about to come of as well.....
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Old 05-29-2004, 11:21 PM   #25
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DMV here is in Oakland, proof that hell is full and the dead are all employed at the DMV. You get an appointment only to sit and wait for your second number. I'm going to call and see what I can accomplish first, asking them about the police department verification and whether they're ready for all 24' of trailer and about the same in truck...no government departments work hand in hand so I'm preparing for the worst. Thanks for the heads up on the police verification thing...who knows, I can always ask and get snapped at, "NO! Next please..."

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Sounds like your doing exactly what I'm doing. Restoring with lots of great updates. There are some - if not lots - of things that have improved since the late 50's early 60's. Also, like you I have another trailer to use while I working on the 58. I really enjoy camping, so I could not be doing a trailer restoration without having another trailer for taking trips in.

In my case, I'm going to put the a/c on top, because there is already one up there, am gonna put in a fantastic fan in the back - however, I plan to put in a U shaped couch in front and use a folding table that I will store in a closet. Having a goucho in the 75 which is not very comfortable for two watching TV and a booth type arrangement in my old 59, I think the U couch will be great for lounging and for visitors to visit. I'm also in the process of rebuilding the cabinets exactly like the originals with improvements - like glue and dowl instead of staples, and better shelving. Keep me posted - and I'll do the same - looks like I'm about 6 months ahead of you on this so maybe you can learn from my mistakes as I've been learning from others who are six months to years ahead of me.

Hope we can travel to CO Springs together at least from this point - if for no other reason to wonder why we ever got ourselves into this mess - you should see my 58 at the moment - its a mess - need to post pictures - I look at it and think my o my then I get home and look at the brand new cabinets and think this is REALLY cool.

Don't know if you have looked at my photos in the photo section, but you can see what I'm starting with.

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Congratulations , looks great.Those pictures are big help to me as I am planning on replacing most of the skin on my '61.I was considering adding a joint over the curb side window and from your photos it looks original.I also like the look of the aft compartment and the gutter over the door.Could you please post a photo of that gutter up close it would be a big help.I have an old Armstrong a/c on the roof and want to remove it and put a basement model under the sink , your trailer looks great without that big lump on top.
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Ken,
You have much more to work with than I do. I looked at your photos. I have only the bedframe, sink and stove cabinets, and the bathroom cabinet frames left. Oh, and the tub. I am keeping them only to use for templates to make new ones. There is nothing along the curb side of the trailer, and nothing in the front, either. I also only have 1 wall good enough to trace for a wall template...lucky me! I will be looking for the channels that receives the wall panel in a groove, the curved ones. I have exactly one of those. First things first, frame and floor.
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