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Zybane · 05-10-2016, 10:34 PM

It will be interesting to see how I like the sofa in my classic when I pick up up on Thursday. I have yet to see anyone post that they have removed the reclining sofa on the 2015-2016 Classic, so it can't be that bad! I could always rip it out and put in a recliner and a mini-desk.

Funny, I have yet to see the current Classic area with the sofa removed to check out the guts. Can't find any pictures.

DHart · 05-10-2016, 10:39 PM

We checked out the reclining sofa in the 2016 Classic and while it is a modest improvement over the slab sofas in other Airstream models, it has no headrest and really offers no where near the comfort of a high quality recliner.

I'd say that the Classic reclining sofa can 'make-do' better than the slab sofa, unless and until you desire the true reclining comfort that only high quality recliners can offer.

For people who do not spend a lot of time sitting inside their trailer, the reclining sofa may suffice. For people who do enjoy spending a lot of time sitting inside their trailer... recliners offer the ultimate in comfort.

Zybane · 05-11-2016, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DHart

We checked out the reclining sofa in the 2016 Classic and while it is a modest improvement over the slab sofas in other Airstream models, it has no headrest and really offers no where near the comfort of a high quality recliner.

I'd say that the Classic reclining sofa can 'make-do' better than the slab sofa, unless and until you desire the true reclining comfort that only high quality recliners can offer.

For people who do not spend a lot of time sitting inside their trailer, the reclining sofa may suffice. For people who do enjoy spending a lot of time sitting inside their trailer... recliners offer the ultimate in comfort.

Ya, I will definitely report back on how I like the sofa or if I want to remove it.

A couple of things to note: the classic sofa reclines back to a little ledge, so a simple pillow could solve the-no headrest issue. Also, there are tradeoffs with a recliner. I also like to lay down width wise on a couch to watch a movie, something you cannot do with a recliner. Plus the loss of one sleep spot.

dkottum · 05-11-2016, 03:13 PM

The irony of recliner models selling poorly off the showroom floor is how many people convert to recliners after spending some time on the various bench seat configurations.

Time spent at the showroom does not equal actually living in it. I think folks count the number seating positions when shopping, quantity beats quality. With the recliner option gone, only the new Classic offers a place to relax comfortably. Real sofas were common in Airstreams only a few years ago.

FCStreamer · 05-11-2016, 03:20 PM

I agree. If the focus is maximum sleeping area, then I understand why the recliner option is not popular. But some of us only need to sleep two. Everyone else for themselves!

I am not sure couples are the target demographic for 30' recliner models...

DHart · 05-11-2016, 06:08 PM

Agree.... some people think they really want or need to be able to sleep more than themselves in their RV (whatever the type or brand), thus RV makers have focused on making every possible spot for someone to sleep... sofas that turn into beds, dinettes that turn into mini beds, etc.

But not everyone wants or needs any more sleeping capability than their own bed. We decided that our sitting, relaxing, reclining comfort easily trumped having additional sleeping or sitting positions that might only occasionally be used. We went straight to recliners. This option won't work for everyone.

But once you've spent more than 15 minutes on most of the rv sofas that are in rigs these days, you realize how uncomfortable they are for anything beyond just a few minutes.

RexRad · 07-19-2021, 08:37 PM

Anyone have any idea how the recliners in a 2021 30' Classic RBQ are wired? I just got mine and the recliners aren't working off the batteries. Does it have to be plugged in to AC? I don't see any fuses linked to the recliners, or see them on the wiring diagram. Granted, I don't really know how to read wiring diagrams....

OTRA15 · 07-20-2021, 12:30 AM

Thanks for bumping this old thread.

Possible clues in these "recliner wiring site:airforums.com" search results?
https://www.google.com/search?q=recl...=airforums.com

Images: https://www.google.com/search?source...w=1200&bih=599
Same as 2019 reclining sofa here? https://www.airforums.com/forums/f54...ng-205574.html
See also: https://www.airforums.com/forums/f54...ls-225125.html

Your wiring diagram could help obviously . . . just another "fix the trailer" skill to learn?

Go for it IMO.

Good luck,

Peter

RexRad · 07-21-2021, 12:31 PM

Thank you

RexRad · 07-21-2021, 06:09 PM

It looks like the answer is in the following forum..

https://www.airforums.com/forums/f54...ng-205574.html

In his case it takes AC to make them work. I will plug in my generator and see if that solves it. I have the AS parked in front of my house without AC power at this time, and I ahven't had time the last several days between work

and evening meetings....

Thanks for your suggestions and research. I will update when I figure it out.

OTRA15 · 07-22-2021, 12:14 AM

Glad you made some progress . . . good luck.

Peter

RexRad · 07-22-2021, 02:35 PM

Plugged in my generator, turned it on ... and Viola! The recliners worked.
You would that that might be in the documentation, instead of the useless paragraph that they have....

Thought I was going to have to go through the wiring......

uncle_bob · 07-22-2021, 02:45 PM

Hi

The "stock" recliners run off of a 20 something (24 or 28) volt DC supply that plugs into a wall socket. It puts out around 4A. There is one for each side of the recliner (so two supplies). The outlet they plug into is indeed one that is supplied by the inverter.

The gotcha comes when the leg rest is up and the AC power goes out. You now have no easy way to lower the rest and no easy way to get out of the recliner.

You *could* put in a DC/DC converter and generate the 28V off of the battery. The parasitic load would be in the 10's of ma for the converter it's self. No idea what the parasitic load from the recliner would be (if any ....).

As a side note, since this thread was last active in 2016, there have been a number of folks doing interesting things in place of the recliner.

Bob