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Old 05-14-2016, 01:50 PM   #21
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Here is a similar thread in praise of a gas oven:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f484...ven-28619.html

We bought our new FC20 BECAUSE it has a gas oven!
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Old 05-14-2016, 04:59 PM   #22
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My vote would be for the gas oven and microwave. I can't do without the microwave and also prefer the gas oven.
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Old 05-14-2016, 05:30 PM   #23
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Sixty air-cooled horsepower and we did the Ike Gauntlet.

My Dad grew up in Denver and Casper in the 1930s and '40s. About halfway up the local "Four Mile Hill" one swung the car around. And then proceeded in Reverse. Passengers helping push.

Propane only barely edges out water as the most important RV system. Safe to say that the ability to warm the interior, cook food and heat water (as well as light the interior), makes these trailers what they are.

I may not use the oven all that much, but enjoy the times I do. Not to say I wouldn't like to upgrade to better quality. And see no reason not to add a convection/microwave.

I'd hate to make it either/or. But I'd choose propane power first.
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Old 05-14-2016, 06:26 PM   #24
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[QUOTE=dkottum;1790587]I think the simple answer is if you use your oven at home you will miss not having it when traveling.

We had a series of campers for 40 years without ovens, never again. The 25 FB has a convection oven/microwave over the fridge as well as the gas oven./QUOTE]

I think that you'll find it's the 25rb that has the microwave over the fridge and the 25fb has the option of oven or convection microwave but not both.
We chose the oven in our 25fb International as we boondock a lot and as other have said, it makes a great storage for fry pans and other cooking pots while on the road.
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Old 05-14-2016, 08:18 PM   #25
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We use our gas oven all the time, no microwave and we don't miss it at all. Love it for baked potatoes, making toast for breakfast, apple crisp on a cool fall day (great aroma for in the trailer), etc.

A microwave requires 110 and we dry camp about half of the time when on the road. For us would be a waste of space.
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Old 05-14-2016, 08:19 PM   #26
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"I think that you'll find it's the 25rb that has the microwave over the fridge and the 25fb has the option of oven or convection microwave but not both."

Thanks for the correction, you would think we would know having a rb.
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Old 05-14-2016, 08:26 PM   #27
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Mine has a microwave and gas oven. I love the gas oven. I wouldn't consider a trailer without one.
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Old 05-14-2016, 08:41 PM   #28
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There were only three options for the 2015 23D International Serenity, a 1000 watt inverter, a convection/microwave upgrade and the street side and rear awnings package. The dealers typically loaded all three for more profit.


Our standard Dometic stove top/oven combo did an exceptionally poor job of temperature management in the oven. We have just upgraded the stock stove to the Dometic CU434 stove top/oven and have yet to cook with the oven.

We are not too impressed with the convection microwave but at least we can run it when boon-docking since we have a 3000 watt inverter that replaced the stock inverter that can NOT even power the microwave.

Before purchase, get inside the various models, lie down on the bed and situp to see if you hit your head on the rear or front roof locker. Try and pretend to make the cross frame queen bed. (The twins are doable, but not like at home). Sit in the dinette and look at the television. Is your neck twisted? If sitting on the dinette seat with your feet up, are you comfortable?

Look at the access point to the storage under the bed. Can you reach the far extremes? The models with the front access hatch behind the propane tanks are more likely to have higher maintenance on that hatch to keep it from leaking due to the water pressure in the rain when driving.

Spend serious time in each model. There will be one that seems to hit all the buttons. Keep in mind the tow vehicle requirements can change if the two foot "itis" hits- if we get a longer trailer....

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Old 05-16-2016, 07:58 AM   #29
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I think almost all trailers have the option of convection microwave or gas oven and microwave.
The advantage of convection microwave is that you get a couple of more drawers for storage.
We never used the oven when we had one, so we don't miss it.
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Old 05-16-2016, 08:39 AM   #30
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I believe that quite a few AS models do not offer a gas oven, even as an option.
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Old 08-04-2016, 10:46 PM   #31
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We are picking up or 2016 Serenity 25FB next week and it has the convection oven, are we able to run it off of a 2000 w generator?
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Old 08-05-2016, 02:35 AM   #32
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Yes, but not with everything else running like hot water, refrig, and full load on converter. Just make sure hot water is on propane and you should be fine. You may also need to put refrig on propane.

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Yes, but not with everything else running like hot water, refrig, and full load on converter. Just make sure hot water is on propane and you should be fine. You may also need to put refrig on propane.

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Old 08-05-2016, 07:29 AM   #34
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When we got our 27 fb it had the micro convection oven. It was low to the ground and really complicated to use. I had to take out the manual each time we went camping. I understand that they've changed the model and it's much easier to use now. Because it was such a pain, we changed it out to the gas oven. I'm much happier and found we use it a fair bit. We have a convection oven at home so I'm familiar baking in them but the gas oven has much more space inside. I bought a small cookie tray and roast vegetables, bake cookies and muffins etc. I thought we'd get a countertop microwave but we haven't and I don't miss it one bit. We defrost meat by putting it in a plastic bag then putting it in a bowl of cold water. I actually like this way better because the juices don't leach our like with a microwave. Leftovers get reheated on the stovetop or in the oven on a low temp.
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Old 08-05-2016, 08:56 AM   #35
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I finally can use the convection oven without referring to the manual, but it is low- under the counter-
I either sit on the floor or in the dinette booth to use it.
Press convection.
Select temperature.
Enter time.
Press start.
Pretty easy after doing it for a while-
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Old 08-05-2016, 10:42 PM   #36
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I have the convection/micro combo. Can't live without the microwave but the convection part is a pain to use and too small. I prefer to use the gas oven when an oven is needed. Also I have been unable to find cookware that will fit into the convection oven to catch juices and what not. No so much of a problem with the gas oven.
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Old 08-06-2016, 06:24 PM   #37
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I've got the convection / microwave combo and like it. It's kind of ugly looking and the text is unreadable unless you get down to its level. Also, there's no option for toast. I mean... really? Of all the options, no toast. Sure it can be done manually but it always over cooks into a large crouton without the seasoning. Crunch!
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Old 08-07-2016, 07:52 AM   #38
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We selected the plain microwave in the Classic as it was being built order. The 23D was a "stock" unit in inventory with every option so it had the convection microwave. The stock Dometic propane stove/oven will be replaced this fall with the Dometic CU434 stove/oven like we retrofitted to the 23D (standard in the 2016 and later Classics and maybe the Pendleton models). In the Classic I have to get on my knees to see the instructions and on the 23D get on my tip toes as it is mounted above the refrigerator.

We seldom use the microwaves except for something like baked potatoes as the original propane ovens seem to lack the ability to maintain a steady temperature.
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Microwave for heating lots of stuff. Oven for muffins and we will try it out on some dinner menu items this fall. Specifically wanted both. Convection is a great method, just not in the small version offered. And if you are baking muffins for the rest of the week, you can't heat the last two for breakfast while you wait for the new ones to cook if the microwave and the oven are a combination. The worst about the deal is the location. At home the oven is on the wall where you can see it and the microwave is as well. No so in the trailer. Space and design do make a difference, but we all compromise a bit to see the world. Just figure out what compromises work for you.

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To oven, or not to oven. What should I choose?

We've finally ordered our new 2022 27' International FBT. It should be arriving in December! I'm really torn about the oven/microwave. Love the option of additional pantry space without the smaller microwave, however, not sure that the convection oven was the right choice. My hubby wants to boondock and I would love to have the LP oven to bake. Then I read that you can bake in the combo oven but you have to have hookups. Is it possible to use the combo oven with generator? I'm really debating if we should reconsider the gas oven option. Our salesman said that the small microwave barely popped a bag of microwave popcorn. Husband thought that was important and persuaded him to order the combo oven. It would be a tradeoff either way. Are there any bakers out there that can suggest an alternate option for boondocking? Appreciate any cookbooks as well. Thank you.
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