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Old 02-06-2008, 04:31 PM   #1
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25' FB Safari Questions & Change Points

Well, since me have purchased our' 04 Bambi, we have had some great camping adventures. However, the addition one one child to the family made life much harder for camping. Now, with ANOTHER child on the way (I have to sit and figure out where these children are coming from . . .) I can't help but think that it's time to upsize.

We recently had the opportunity to tour a 2008 Safari SE 25'FB, and WOW what a change from the lil' old Bambi. I THINK that this would be a trailer that could could 2 adults, 2-3 young children and two large dogs in relative comfort, but camping with young ones is still a new concept for me. Can anyone that has camped with small kids comment?

Next, I have no real need to get into a new 2008, but rather find a gently used 2006 for a good price. Is there a list of changepoints that might have occurred in the trailers over the past few years?

The trailer that we looked at was winterized and completely shut down with no electrical power. I noticed that there appeared to be a small step light on the outside. Is there present in 2006 models? It is LED?

Lastly, does anyone know the distance from the center of the rear wheels to the back bumper? I have to know if I can get this thing up my driveway.

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Old 02-06-2008, 05:17 PM   #2
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Hi Westfalia
The FB layout is a great one!
How about a 27' FB? We traded our 25 SS for a 27 FB and love the layout. (2 adults and two boys 8 and 9) Ideal bedroom, ample storage, fantastic bathroom and shower, nice kitchen layout and a lot of lounge area. After dinner we like to drop the dinette table down and make a huge comfy couch to watch tv.
It's a good time to get a NEW 2007 model. Check with some of the larger AS dealers for price quotes...some will even deliver to you.
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Old 02-06-2008, 05:32 PM   #3
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We have talked about the 27FB. Asides from the points you made above, it doesn't appear that there is any increase in lounge space, and I don't know if I can fit the extra two feet of length in my driveway. However, fantastic point about the dinette to couch conversion! Also, does your 27FB have the step light?
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Old 02-06-2008, 05:44 PM   #4
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IMO none of the 25/27 foot Airstreams are well suited for a large family (4-5 + doggies!) With young kids, bunks are ideal and the vast majority of SOB RVing folks seem to end up with a 30+ footers with slides. We were there for a few years in a 30 foot SOB and never regretted the extra space, but we're now in a downsizing trend as our two teenage kids will no longer coming with us as much.

Coming from a smaller trailer, a 25/27 footer might seem huge, but it will get a lot smaller when the kids start growing and bring all their "stuff" from home. Unless you plan on trading every few years, I'd look a little further into the future and think hard about your needs.

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avoid the current crop of front bed models...

hi westie...

imo most (all) of the current fb models should be avoided.

i'll post more details later on this very important issue.

look more at the front sofa/rear twins models for a family of 4-5....

since bunks could go in the rear...

i suspect the 30 bunkhouse model is more trailer than u currently want...

but there are useful design features IN that model,

which could be transferred into some of the mid sized, front door units from '00-05...

step light?

all of the recent years of classic models have had an incandescent/filament bulb step light, that many dealers could INSTALL on any unit...

the led step light now offered isn't very bright...

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Westfalia isn't even sure a 25'er will fit in the driveway!
By upsizing your AS you're gonna have to get a bigger TV!
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Hey 2air'
Is there something I should know about in regards to FB?
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:26 PM   #8
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IMO none of the 25/27 foot Airstreams are well suited for a large family (4-5 + doggies!) With young kids, bunks are ideal and the vast majority of SOB RVing folks seem to end up with a 30+ footers with slides. We were there for a few years in a 30 foot SOB and never regretted the extra space, but we're now in a downsizing trend as our two teenage kids will no longer coming with us as much.

Coming from a smaller trailer, a 25/27 footer might seem huge, but it will get a lot smaller when the kids start growing and bring all their "stuff" from home. Unless you plan on trading every few years, I'd look a little further into the future and think hard about your needs.

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I plan on expanding into a tent for times that we may need more sleep space, even if that means the dogs and myself are the ones in the tent.

You do make good points, but I feel that for a lot of people, the end up in bigger trailers because they can't limit the amount of stuff they bring with them. Understandable if you are fulltiming, but weekend or sub week trips should easily be able to be made in 19-25', IF you plan properly. I'm used to VW Busses and 19' Bambi's. Even growing up with extensive cross country trips in a Tioga motorhome with four boys and two adults (and a dog at some point), we did just fine.

Honestly, I am not counting ANYTHING out at this time, including a 30', so all opinions are appreciated, so thank you for yours!

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avoid the current crop of front bed models...
I can't wait to hear the reasoning for this 2air. This is a bummer, but if I am considering bigger trailers, there are many options. Just as long as I don't end up with a corner bed. The bed in the Bambi is almost a deal breaker.

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By upsizing your AS you're gonna have to get a bigger TV!
Yeah, that. Yeah, the Touareg won't cut it. We were originally thinking about a new 23'FB. It wouldn't give us much more room for kiddo's and dogs over the Bambi but it COULD still be towed by out Touareg. Anything larger pushes us into truck category, so I am shopping on that front as well. No worries, no plans on towing a 25'FB with the Touareg.
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:26 PM   #9
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2air the wife and I are thinking about a FB unit, so PM me if it is a secret.

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Old 02-06-2008, 06:27 PM   #10
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yes 2air ..... I too am very keen to learn about the 'downside' of the 25fb.
So far, very impressed with the layout, function, etc. and as such, we are leaning towards this one being the "AS of choice" (and this would be for full timing).
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:31 PM   #11
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Wow, see what I started? 2Air, PM any details if you can, otherwise I'll wait patiently with the rest as to your FB warning.

The good news is, I'm not in any huge hurry. The new baby will here in the next week or two, so I know what I'll be doing. Also, waiting to see what the economy is really going to do in the next few months. It may make upgrade to a new unit and truck more affordable due to lower interest rates or it may make me want to just hold on the Bambi and deal with it. It's not like Airstream camping, even in a 19' Bambi, is really roughing it!
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imo most (all) of the current fb models should be avoided.

i'll post more details later on this very important issue.

2air, I wanna know too! You have the attention of quite a few. Should I feel ill?
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Come on 2Air give it up, we all want to know
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I have my search narrowed down to the 2008 Safari SE 25' FB. I too would like to know what 2air's concerns are.....

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