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1 Rivet Member 
2007 19' International CCD
Vancouver
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7
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Wait?
We'll find out how long we have to wait in a week or two. In the bigger scheme of things, not a big deal - we probably would only been able to get out for a weekend or two before Memorial Day weekend anyway. They say it's aluminum with a machined "swirl" and a special coating to keep it shiny - I'll tell more when I get it - If there was anyone with a QuikSilver or an Ocean Breeze they could say if it is or isn't - if we're going to wait for 8 weeks or more for plastic, I will be dissappointed! Jon
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03-06-2007, 06:23 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2008 27' International CCD FB
Mill Valley
, California
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 339
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We're taking delivery on out 25" Ocean Breeze this Friday so I will check out the aluminum wall to see if it is really aluminum or plastic. That one wall was one of the deciding factors for us too - so I think your wife made the right choice!!
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03-06-2007, 09:07 AM
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Rivet Master 
2006 30' Classic
Farmington
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 832
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Originally Posted by jimmickle
The only way to be sure that here is no draw from the battery is to put a master switch ON the battery, like the people who have classic cars that are driven infrequently do.
Some uneducated law writer made it a requirement that the propane leak detector not be turned off by the "master switch." Result: Dead battery in a short time, even with the master switch off.
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jim-- it's my understanding the reason the propane detector remains on is that unless it is it will become inoperative due to foreign materal collecting on it's sensor. That said, I have found that left connected it will completely discharge a single group 24 battery in about 30 days. Also I have disconnected mine in the last 2 trailers when parking for extended periods of time with no aparent problems.---pieman
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03-28-2007, 11:58 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
2007 16' Bambi
Reno
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 47
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2007 16' Bambi QC issues
Took delivery of a 2007 16' CCD about a month ago. Have spent every weekend in it so far. Overall the fit and finish has been good but we have had a couple of issues:
1) The faucet leaks in multiple places and needs to be replaced - getting serviced
2) This is more of a design issue : The refrig fan is really loud and after searching for the on/off switch described in the manual we called AS only to find out they removed it on the 2007 model. Many thanks to this thread
http://www.airforums.com/forum...lly-11811.html
which showed me how to install a dual ultra quiet fan system. AS should really deal with this at the factory and switch fan vendors.
3) The sony 10 disc changer in a word sucks. OK so I am a bit of a gaget person and a 10 disc changer seems so 1990 but never the less it barely functions and I hear lots of feedback through the speakers when the CD spins up. Ripped that out replaced with an Ipod soon to be replaced with Sonos.
4) The refigerator door didnt close so I had to add a spacer to make it fit.
With all that said - I love this trailer -its my first and I dont mind working on it a bit but for the $$ I would expect a bit more quality. And the fridge fan is just poor vendor choice the slinex fans are super quiet.
D
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03-29-2007, 01:43 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Lake Forest
, Illinois
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 184
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Originally Posted by Mike Lewis
jim-- it's my understanding the reason the propane detector remains on is that unless it is it will become inoperative due to foreign materal collecting on it's sensor. That said, I have found that left connected it will completely discharge a single group 24 battery in about 30 days. Also I have disconnected mine in the last 2 trailers when parking for extended periods of time with no aparent problems.---pieman
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Just read your line on the propoane detector. Since I am rather new at this can you tell me how it is turned off? I wasn't aware it could be turned off. Since I left my AS in Arizona for the winter I may already have dead batteries.
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03-29-2007, 04:49 PM
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Rivet Master 
2006 30' Classic
Farmington
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 832
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Wooded-- We have an 06/30'Classic and the wiring is exactly like our previous 05/25' Classic. That said on both of these there is an inline fuse holder at the area near the converter.The fuse holder has orange wires but thats not the color of the wires going to sensor. As far as I can see it's the only fuse holder there. Pull the fuse and see if the monitor lamp on the sensor goes out. Then you know you have it turned off. If there happens to be no fuse to remove you could always put a remote toggle switch in the power supply wire to it. ----piman
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03-29-2007, 06:51 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
2007 34' Classic
Pecos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 124
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We took delivery of our 2007 34' Classic in early January and have been on the road with it ever since. Starting in South Texas and are now in Long Beach Washington for a few months. So far, we have had no quality issues to report on. This is our fourth new AS, and we really do love the fit and finish of this one! Had a cracked light fixture cover, which was replaced quickly by the dealer via FedEx. The only other problem was a brake line leak on the road which may have been caused by a road hazard. Pecos Pete
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03-31-2007, 05:24 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Lake Forest
, Illinois
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 184
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Mike
Thanks. Since I left my AS in Arizona and I am in Illinois, I wouldn't be surprised to find some dead batteries. I will be there in 3 weeks and will look for the fuse holder. It would make a lot of sense for AS to have one switch that shuts down the entire system for periods of storage, etc.I find my AS to be a little primative given the fact that it is 2007.
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04-08-2007, 06:16 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Blaine
, Washington
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 287
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2007 Safari SE FB
Just picked it up on Wednesday, April 4th. Brought it home from the dealer, about 400 miles over 5 days. Absolutely no problems. Everything works and fit and finish are excellent.
When we owned a MH, I was told that the dealer is almost as important as the Manufacturer when it comes to a quality delivered product. I agree. We had a great dealer that did a great prep. and walk thru for over 2 hours.
John
PS The dealer is Sutton RV in Eugene, OR
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04-23-2007, 06:55 AM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
Frozen Tundra
, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,278
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Certain possible issues with the exterior finishes have come to light and I would suggest that you read this thread:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f142...ues-31743.html
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06-05-2007, 06:43 PM
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Rivet Master 
2007 20' Safari SE
Cuddebackville
, NY
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,182
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2007 Safari SE quality
OK, we've had our shake down cruise with our 2007 20' SafariSE. I'd like to compalin about.......basically nothing. Everything works, it pulls easily and we love it.
OK, I'll be really picky (my forte) and give you a few minor items:
The bathroom faucet was loose and I tightened it by hand in 30 seconds.
One cabinet latch had screws that were stripped. I replaced them with slightly longer screws.
A halogen bulb blew out and I replaced it with one I found at my local hardware store.
I'm not sure I'm wild about the A/C (11,500) it seemed a bit weak when I used it, but my wife said it did just fine for her.
My biggest complaint is the amount of metal debris from manufacturing. I had to vacuum every nook and cranny before we left and driving shook out a whole bunch more.
It poured one day and the only thing that took on water was an open window and some rain seemed to find it's way into the vent for the stove exhaust. I think that's because the vent is angled back a bit as it sits right where the body starts curving. I'm thinking of extenting the vent cover an inch or so.
Now for my MAJOR modifications:
I used clear plastic corner guards to make a retaining lip at the edge of each shelf in the medicine cabinet. Keeps things from falling out every time I open the door.
I used some small diameter rubber tubing between the frame and the LP tank enclosure beacuse I didn't like the metal-on-metal situation. It was already wearing the paint and would rust soon. I slit the tubing and put it over the edge of the LP tank cover.
How's that for anal?
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06-05-2007, 07:56 PM
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Rivet Master 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Huntington Beach
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Originally Posted by Wayne&Sam
Now for my MAJOR modifications:
I used clear plastic corner guards to make a retaining lip at the edge of each shelf in the medicine cabinet. Keeps things from falling out every time I open the door.
I used some small diameter rubber tubing between the frame and the LP tank enclosure beacuse I didn't like the metal-on-metal situation. It was already wearing the paint and would rust soon. I slit the tubing and put it over the edge of the LP tank cover.
How's that for anal?
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Great to hear all the good news..but anal?....you are just beginning the first stages of aluminitus.....it gets much worse as evidenced by many of the members on this forum...
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06-05-2007, 08:44 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 199
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Its telling to see your comments about metal shavings and dust. This goes back at least 5-6 years and is indicative of the attitude of AS. Worse, sometime around 2004 they supposedly hired a QA/QC manager. Lets give this guy a big raise! Sweeping up before selling a 60K+ trailer would be some entry-level QC. I frankly do not believe AS cares. Not about the dirt/dust, the fan noise, the caulking in the bathroom, the refer door, the cabinets, the clear coat, the wiring, screws under the floor, the laminate, leaks, axles, vendors, stereo or tv systems, system monitor, ........
Has anyone out there ever actually spoken to anyone at AS responsible for quality control?
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06-05-2007, 09:31 PM
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Rivet Master 
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Santa Cruz
, California
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 894
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This is actually a combo post for both the "07 Quality" and "On the Road" threads.
We're on the road right now, completing our first real journey in our 07 25' Safari SE LS FB etc...We hit the Oregon coast from central CA and every bit of our time on the road has been terrific. As far as the actual road trip is concerned: Timing is everything. We headed out from Santa Cruz to our daughter's graduation in the East Bay and had great fun staying in a deserted dorm parking lot.
Then we headed over the Richmond Bridge at at little before 6 AM and had "the maze" almost to ourselves. After wending our way north with ease (waving at the River Road exit to fond memorie of Casini...) with our silver condo tucking and rolling right along with us, we landed at Benbow RV park, a very comfy "en route" stay.
Then North to Oregon. Gorgeous, wonderful, easy roads, and great parks. We've towed through sun, wind, rain squalls, beaucoup logging trucks, and enough blinding white SOBs to ruin your sight for life, with nary a sway.
No leaks, no doors and drawers flying open, no unsavory odors, no storage or space problems. The shower hasn't backed up, the covers are staying on the beds, and the mattresses aren't slipping (we have twins.) The dinette has converted to the perfect CD viewing area and we don't think any place could be more comfortable or suit us better. Our 3 small dogs have adapted beautifully and know just where they can go, and it never includes the bedroom.
Happy trails to all. We're loving this Airstream life.
A few photos of the expediton.
Janet
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