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05-04-2005, 07:10 AM
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#101
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1 Rivet Member
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 14
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Ours is a "suicide" door, which is a tradeoff to the redesign that blocks the kitchen window when folded back against the outside of the trailer. So far, we don't have any problem with the 90 degree opening.
Concerning the TV and the 12vdc hookup, I haven't pursued locating a second plug. You saved me some time contacting Sharp, since buying another transformer is their only option. Why not go to the transformer (in the access space under the fridge on the outside) and cut the output line to the TV. Then, solder in a parallel 12vdc line and run to a hot 12v source. Hook both to a double pole toggle switch (in order to be able to select either feed going to the TV), and mount the switch in the 110v receptacle by drilling a round hole in the 110v faceplate for the toggle switch.
I did hear back from AS on my question and the response was " any change will void your warranty". Duh, 12 volts ain't rocket science.
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05-04-2005, 08:05 AM
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#102
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Rivet Master
2006 30' Classic
Farmington
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvertwinkie
Just curious if your 25' FB has the entry door opening from right to left (as all new Airstreams do) or if you got one with the redesigned door that opens left to right (non suicide door).
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Your question concerning the suicide door brought to mind something I had been meaning to mention concerning the door on our 05/25' classic. I happened to notice the door{suicide} opens back against the furnace exhaust outlet. I was going in and out one day when it was cool outdoors and the thermostat was turned up from that morning. I just happen to be at the door when the furnace burner came on and realized what damage could be done as the door skin is almost against the furnace exhaust. If left to run I have no doubt it would ruin the door.!!! Am courious if anyone else had noticed this or if like me was un aware of it.---------Pieman
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05-04-2005, 12:59 PM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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For those of us that have this config (I do), it's a constant worry. I have also made the mad dash for the door upon hearing the furnace fire up and seeing the main door fully open. I guess the logic might have been that if the furnace was needed, the door would be shut, and for the most part it is....unless it gets nice out and you forget to turn off the furnace and it's right around that sweet spot where the furnace might still kick in or it's sunset, the temp has gone down and you left the furnace on and it hasn't gotten quite cold enough to close the windows and door yet...in which case you now own a baked twinkie if you don't catch it!
Me, I'm like Pavlov's dog, I hear the furnace during the day and first instinct after drooling is to look at the front door to see if it's closed.
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05-04-2005, 01:51 PM
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#104
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvertwinkie
Me, I'm like Pavlov's dog, I hear the furnace during the day and first instinct after drooling is to look at the front door to see if it's closed.
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Hmmm...I make the mad dash also, but I don't drool. Have you finished your housebreaking training? Maybe it's an age thing and I have run out of drool.
Jack
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STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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05-04-2005, 02:10 PM
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#105
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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Na, not yet...I'm just a pup.
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05-14-2005, 10:56 AM
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#106
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 199
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Did anyone ever have any success on the issue of corrosion and finding non-corrosive screws for the teardrop lights? It sounds like stainless screws are not the answer, but zinc screws certainly seem to rust fast. I am not sure if they make aluminum screws, and if so, would they be too soft a metal?
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05-14-2005, 02:50 PM
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#107
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 239
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Contact Airstream customer service and they will send you some replacement screws.
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05-17-2005, 03:10 PM
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#108
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,812
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yes martha they are doing the wheels
greetings all
i crawled under the 05 34 ltd to grease the levelers for the first time and crawled around to look at everything before things get too many coats of road crud. while under there i checked the wheels and all six had rim weights attached to the inner edge. there weren't any tape-on weights or outer rim weights but there were enough clamp-on weights along the inner side to suggest that someone is in fact balancing wheels before delivery. it wasn't the dealer either, so it must be happening at the factory as the owners manual states. of course i didn't see any of this on the tour, so maybe airstream is contracting this process out to whoever mount the tires and preps the wheels.
since tires aren't perfectly weighted either i hope they are balancing the rims after the tires are mounted. of course as the tires wear and begin to lose rubber they will eventually be out of balance again, and if you do lots of backing/turning and so on the tires will wear more unevenly than if just driving forward.
so to prolong the "balanced effect" i'll consider rotating every 2-3000 miles and likely have them re balanced yearly when the bearing are repacked and the disc brake pads inspected.
oh yea six disc brakes is pretty cool looking under there too.
cheers
2air'
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05-17-2005, 08:45 PM
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#109
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 199
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lynn
Contact Airstream customer service and they will send you some replacement screws.
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I did and they did. Thanks. Lynn.
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05-24-2005, 04:55 PM
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#110
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' International CCD
1964 19' Globetrotter
2012 Interstate Coach
vero beach
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 184
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leaky nightmare
It is'nt just the 02 through 04 modelsthat have quality problems. My 2005 22' CCD is a night mare of sloppy construction and poor warranty service. In addition to all the problems noted here and on other forums my trailer had numerous interior leaks. It leakes in various places from the roof through the inside of the walls finding it's way to the floor eventually.
After the insulation gets saturated, water dripps out through the screw holes where the window shades are mounted, and between the overlapping interior panels above the counter top and at the head of the bed . A lot of water; more than a half bucket when I washed the trailer. It also leaked around the door and one window.
Airstream refuses to take remedial action other than plug the leaks, and in one case the dealer cobbled up a piece of sheet metal to divert the water to the outside behind the refrigerator.
If you live in Florida, post hurricane, you know about the health problems associated with fungus (mold/mildew). Per the EPA ( Environmental Protection Agency ), you must remove wetted materials within 24-48 hours to prevent possible SERIOUS HEALTH PROBLEMS , particularly for infants, elderly, asthma sufferers, and allergies. This includes wet insulation, and clean water flooding.
I think their quality problems start at the top level of management and are reflected throughout their organization, including their dealers. When I presented the dealer's service department with numerous fasteners picked up from the floor, they laughingly refered to it as "shakedown". I did'nt think it was very funny since I knew where some of these screws and things came from.
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05-24-2005, 05:21 PM
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#111
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Just a member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Lutz
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,549
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denellen
In addition to all the problems noted here and on other forums my trailer had numerous interior leaks. It leakes in various places from the roof through the inside of the walls finding it's way to the floor eventually.
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You mention that the dealer has not addressed your concerns adequately. Have you contacted Airstream directly? They normally will do what they can to make it right.
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Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. -- Plato
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05-25-2005, 07:37 PM
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#112
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' International CCD
1964 19' Globetrotter
2012 Interstate Coach
vero beach
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 184
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leaky nightmare
Yes I've contacted Airstream, and believe me- I've towed this thing all up and down, and across Florida trying to get it fixed properly. Many attempted repairs were unacceptable.
Airstream arrogantly ignored request for specific information regarding repairs/modification of my trailer after their last attempt, and inquiry as to their intentions for further remedial actions regarding biohazard cleanup. They suggested that they would assist me to arrange a trade-in on another model! This of course would leave me at great disadvantage as I would have to disclose this leak problem to any potential buyer, and also accept depreciation as a used trailer. This is a new trailer which I have had no enjoyment of!
I've requested that Airstream replace this LEAKY NIGHTMARE with a new trailer. It is their gross manufacturing defect. I paid good cash: there was nothing wrong with my money. It's time for them to make good on their side of the deal.
I have hired an attorney to pursue a acceptable conclusion, but this is a long and costly process; attorney fees, expert witness, etc.
Meanwhile I am still missing out on one of my family's favorite recreational pursuits.
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05-25-2005, 10:38 PM
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#113
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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While I share your pain, it's a very rare happening when a company replaces a vehicle. Now, before I say anything more, my unit had a leak, got good an wet inside and I dried it out and fixed it. Of course it was a different situation than yours.....
I too when I first got our '03 Bambi was equally unhappy, but after dealing with the factory directly, I found that for the most part the answer to any reasonable request is yes and I've had nothing but great service from the factory folks both over the phone, email and in person. I understand that a trip to Ohio isn't easy, so besides getting a good lawyer, you should look for a good dealer that knows their stuff. I think you'd be happier if you saw some real action or service from a dealer who does more than crack jokes....I'd be hot too if I had a dealer like that, but you know, I did have a similar type dealer I dealt with...when it came time for the '04 Safari, I drove an extra 3 hours and not only got a better deal, but a bit more.
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05-25-2005, 10:42 PM
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#114
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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Hey Frozen, what kind of screws were sent? Do you think they too will rust? I'm gonna have to look at mine to see how they look...haven't paid too much attention to it...prob a good idea since rusty water running off these on the finish can't be good.
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05-26-2005, 04:04 AM
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#115
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Rivet Master
2004 30' Classic
Field and Stream
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 819
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denellen
Yes I've contacted Airstream, and believe me- I've towed this thing all up and down, and across Florida trying to get it fixed properly. Many attempted repairs were unacceptable.
Airstream arrogantly ignored request for specific information regarding repairs/modification of my trailer after their last attempt, and inquiry as to their intentions for further remedial actions regarding biohazard cleanup. They suggested that they would assist me to arrange a trade-in on another model! This of course would leave me at great disadvantage as I would have to disclose this leak problem to any potential buyer, and also accept depreciation as a used trailer. This is a new trailer which I have had no enjoyment of!
I've requested that Airstream replace this LEAKY NIGHTMARE with a new trailer. It is their gross manufacturing defect. I paid good cash: there was nothing wrong with my money. It's time for them to make good on their side of the deal.
I have hired an attorney to pursue a acceptable conclusion, but this is a long and costly process; attorney fees, expert witness, etc.
Meanwhile I am still missing out on one of my family's favorite recreational pursuits.
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I feel your pain, and good luck getting this resolved.
It seems to me that Airstream should be offering to transport your trailer at their expense to the factory and fix it for you there, and/or offer to give you a 100% refund of what you originally paid as a trade-in on another model.
John
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05-26-2005, 05:59 AM
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#116
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3 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
West of Boston
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 217
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Problem with Converter
During a long trip last month we experienced a problem with our converter on our 2005 25' Safari SS. We were getting 110 but no 12v. We figured this out when our batteries ran down and the lights went out but the 110 outlets were working. We called Airstream while we were on the road and they were somewhat helpful in helping us determine what the problem was. The directed us to call a couple of dealers we would be passing by on the way home but the dealers were too busy to correct the problem in the timeframe we needed. Fortunately we only had 2 days left on our trip (we were heading home) so we charged the batteries each day with our truck as we drove and kept the lights off at night. The good news is we were pleasantly surprised how competent our dealer was and how well and promptly they fixed the problem. They even fixed a couple of other minor problems! It's scary to hear some of the problems others have had quality is soo important in retaining customers.
I am manufacturing systems director for a large international corporation and in the past few years we have been placing a focus on quality product. We are seeing our sales increase and our customers are much happier... Gee this only makes sense doesn't it?
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05-26-2005, 09:21 PM
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#117
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 199
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They look to be stainless. AS also sent me replacement lights, which do not appear different than what's on now, but maybe they have a better gasket? They are made in Taiwan, so the quality is there.
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05-27-2005, 07:26 AM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frozen chosen
They look to be stainless. AS also sent me replacement lights, which do not appear different than what's on now, but maybe they have a better gasket? They are made in Taiwan, so the quality is there.
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HA!
So let me get it right, they sent you the whole light assembly? These are for the teardrop running lights...right? When I looked they were caulked as well. I could be wrong. Just make sure if you replace the whole unit(s) that you have the proper caulk. I think it's called par-bon or something like that...it's greyish looking. I picked up some when I was at the factory a month or so ago.
I am going to check mine when I see it in a few weeks when I get it ready for the midwest rally.
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05-27-2005, 05:16 PM
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#119
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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Well, I decided to swing by the Safari storage place on my way home tonight. Found 2 things.
There are weight clips on the inside of the rim on all 4 rims. May have been done when I had some warranty work done, cause I don't recall them being there before, but they could have been.
Also checked all the tear drops....none of them had a lick of rust.....not sure why not since I think Frozen's was built around the same time.
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05-28-2005, 03:17 AM
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#120
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 239
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Didn't you ask for a repair order from the dealer that repaired the leaks. Does your trailer still leak?
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