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Old 03-23-2006, 10:59 AM   #253
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In my opinion airstream should subcontract ALL of their cabniet and furniture work. The Hickory cabinets are built by a subcontractor and the fit and finish on the 34 Limited that I inspected at the factory were excellent. If the laminate cabinets start out with the flaws that have been described on the forum numerous times, what are they going to look like in a couple of years with use? It's what I call the tail light warranty. It"s warranted until they can't see your tail lights anymore.
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:20 PM   #254
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2005 Safari 30' BH

Hello streamers wanted to post a quality update. We have a 2005 Safari 30' BH LS mfg date 09/04 with all options except solar. So far about 2000 miles traveled and 10 nights camping. I took the AS into my local dealer this morning to have several fit and finish issues addressed. Below is the list. A couple of these items are a little strange curious about others experiences
Ø Interior Trim pealing and Floor Laminate pealing around toilet and Squeak in floor in front of refrigerator
Ø Exterior Trim- behind driver rear wheel near sewer
Ø Black Tank Sensor- reads full on one flush
Ø Shower Door Leak lower right near toilet

Ø BOTH SINKS leak Kitchen from the sink drain the curved plumbing is not fasten there is no seal so water leaks. Bathroom also leaks in the same place.

Ø Furnace doesn’t fire or turn on.
Ø 2 way radios are dead (they work with regular batteries) but don’t know if the charger is functional I believe it is the rechargeable batteries dead.
Ø Brown dust material enters above the dinette just to the right of the speaker selector it has left a stain. Dust and wood fiber material appear on the dinette seats after every tow. What is it? (This one stumps me)
Ø Window to the right of door doesn’t seal properly
Ø Dinette window screen is torn
Ø Running Lights front and back some have moisture in them and the hardware is rusting.
Ø Patio light cast iron surround is showing rust pits.
Ø Adjust screen door (from the outside) top right corner does not close properly.
Ø Adjust door so it is not so difficult to open or close without slamming.
Ø Balance wheels
Ø Check brakes
Ø Check tires some appear to have a slight bulge
Ø Check Battery test and what is the proper water level?
Ø Outdoor speakers- manual indicates there is a connector for hooking up the speaker please advise
Ø Rubber flange around the sewer water outlet is loose and not sealed.


That’s it. Love my Airstream, but as a Headhunter that specializes in placing manufacturing executives it maybe time to place a call to Robert Wheeler with a new candidate for Director of Quality.
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:51 PM   #255
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Which dealer did you take it to?
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:56 PM   #256
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Dillon RV do you have service experience with them?
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Old 07-06-2006, 05:02 PM   #257
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Some things may be normal

I find that the plumbing under the sinks need retightening about every 6 months.The threaded pipe junctions seem to back off, either with temperature changes or vibration. Since we use the trailer all year here, I check the joints spring and fall and hand tighten them.

Normal tires have a very slight bulge in the sidewalls where the plies are overlapped. You may be seeing that.

I have a slight floor squeak, but decided that the fix is probably worse than the problem. I seldom notice the squeak.
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By the way

Did you check the circuit breaker/switch in the furnace? Mine was delivered with the switch turned off. Probably had been installed with the switch in that condition and never checked. Took just a few seconds to fix the problem.
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I find that the plumbing under the sinks need retightening about every 6 months.The threaded pipe junctions seem to back off, either with temperature changes or vibration. Since we use the trailer all year here, I check the joints spring and fall and hand tighten them.

Normal tires have a very slight bulge in the sidewalls where the plies are overlapped. You may be seeing that.

I have a slight floor squeak, but decided that the fix is probably worse than the problem. I seldom notice the squeak.
Hey John,
The squeak doesn't really bother me its a little character as long as it doesn’t leak.. I think it is funny that it is in front of the fridge.. can't sneak a midnight snack without the trailer letting everyone know
The plumbing issue was the one that has me stewed. There is nothing to tighten on to spin the threaded tightner (is that a word) and nothing.... You can grab the U trap pipe and pull and it slides up and down try to tighten it a it does nothing. Somebody was sleeping on the line that day.
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Old 07-06-2006, 06:40 PM   #260
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I too had a squeek in the floor in front of my refrigerator, and had concluded that it was intentionally put there by Airstream in order that I couldn't sneak a late night snack without waking up my wife.

Our squeek extended into the bathroom and was very annoying.

When we had our trailer back to Jackson Center for service a couple months ago I asked them to fix the floor squeek when they were replacing our vinyl that had been significantly damaged during our trailer's manufacture 2 years ago.

The factory service technician who worked on our trailer informed us that 2 sheets of plywood adjoined in this area, and the side of one sheet had not been bolted or screwed into the frame where it adjoined the other. He put some screws in, and most of our squeek is now gone.

And, if you are asked to recruit for that Airstream
quality control position, I'd like to apply. Obviously, they don't require much to qualify for the position, so I ought to meet their present requirements.

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Hello

My name is Bob, just joined and I am looking to purchase an AS also, luv your question about the quality of the AS, esp., the early 2000 year models and the current years 2003-2006 and 2007. I'f appreciate it if you or other members can keep us newbies updated on any information on those years mentioned...........like you have said......it's a big investment and you want to do it right the 1st time........thanks so much......take care and hope to hear from alot of AS streamers soon.

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You answered my first post on this forum recently. You know I'm a newbie and by the time I buy it will be a 2005 model. When I first started surfing this forum, I read every thread relating to the quality of the 2004s, and even went back and read about the quality of the 2003s.

The last time my wife and I looked at airstreams was back in 1992. We lusted after one; however, constant military reassignments precluded our making the plunge. We hadn't really gotten serious again about camping and a camper until about the last 2 years. I'm a year away from military retirement and we want to do LOTS of traveling rather just sitting rocking (and probably rotting)away in Happy Acres.

We decided on a camper, and given having a Toyota 4-Runner with V-8, we quickly realized it would have to be light. We had narrowed our choice down to a Sunline. Then we saw some Trailmanors and quickly changed our approach. Finally, the wife asked, why are we wanting to give up luxury when we are really going to spend lots of weekends and 1 week trips in a camper. We quickly evolved back to our first love -- Airstream.

This is a long way to get around to what I wanted to say/ask as it relates to the quality topic. When we went to the Airstream Dealer in Fredricksburg VA this past weekend we were -- frankly, disappointed. They didn't have any 19' (which we are really interested in), but we looked at a few 22', 25', and 34' models. None of what we looked at seemed to convey the quality I remember when we were looking back in 1992.

Reading all the threads about quality on this forum concerned me based on my own observations. There does seem to be a general trend (from what I read) -- quality was poor in early 2000s, got somewhat better in 2003, getting better in 2004. I guess that's a good trend; however, these RVs are anything but cheap. We are talking $35-$38,000 just for entry level.

I love the A/S. From reading the threads here -- so do almost all of you. I would like your (and other's) honest opinion on whether A/S is getting their act together on quality. For as much as these cost, that's exactly what I expect. I've looked at Sunlines (even visited the factory), and have yet to see one that didn't impress me with fit and finish, workmanship quality, construction, quality of the wood, etc... and they come in $10 to $15,000 less than a comparable sized A/S.

I know it sounds like what I really ought to buy is the Sunline. But I really want the A/S -- just want to have some degree of confidence that the quality is there for the price differential.

Thanks -- and sorry for sending this thread in possibly a different direction than you intended.
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Hello

My name is Bob, just joined and I am looking to purchase an AS also, luv your question about the quality of the AS, esp., the early 2000 year models and the current years 2003-2006 and 2007. I'f appreciate it if you or other members can keep us newbies updated on any information on those years mentioned...........like you have said......it's a big investment and you want to do it right the 1st time........thanks so much......take care and hope to hear from alot of AS streamers soon.

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Bob,
I'm optimistic that all of my fit and finish issues will be resolved. The company, Airstream, based upon all of this community’s feedback take care of their problems..Are they perfect, no way, but find one that is. If they did not take care of their problems, why have so many of the forum member traded and continued to purchase Airstreams? Several of the people in this forum are on their second or third AS since joining this forum just a hand full of years ago. Quality works itself out over time.... or the customer goes away....
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We got our '05 28' International CCD in the middle of August and it is great! The first trip out here is what we noticed......

·There was a leak over the dinette in the awning side front vista window

·There was a leak over the stove in seam from the refrigerator to the window

·There was a leak in bedroom roadside front vista window

·There was a leak in seam over the power switch awning side in front of the door

·There was a broken bolt on the roadside rear stabilizer jack

·Shower door would not open/close easily and leaks from the front bottom channel

·There is a squeak in the floor by the dinette

·One of the cables holding the back compartment was not attached

·The wrong size dinette table is in the AS….must be out of a Bambi….too small

·The paint is missing, and there is a little rust on a couple of places on the tongue.


I will post the month/yr of manufacture on monday....since the AS is at the dealer getting the last of my problems fixed....hopefully.

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Well, in addition to our missing TV antenna power booster, we found that our '05 has a squeak in floor next to our dinette table just like your's did. Did you ever have your's fixed, Scott? Add to that the hitch ball lock on the trailer doesn't like to open and close easily. One of the drawers next to the hall closet is split in the back, and the bedroom roof fan know sticks and appears to have been pulled too hard at one time or another as the entire fan housing pulls down slightly with the knob.

I called our dealer and was told to make a list and I could drop it off for a few days for the repairs. I'm quite happy with the way our dealer has responded thus far. I'm going through this entire thread to make sure I don't have any of the problems posted here. A thread like this sure is helpful to weed out the knowns and unknowns.
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I have a "sometimes" squeak in front of the refrigerator. I figure the fix is worse than the problem, so it is going to stay that way. It seems to be either abating with time or I am so used to it that I don't notice it anymore.
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I have a "sometimes" squeak in front of the refrigerator. I figure the fix is worse than the problem, so it is going to stay that way. It seems to be either abating with time or I am so used to it that I don't notice it anymore.
John,

That's a good point. I'm just curious if the squeak is revealing a small problem that will not pose a problem later on, or possibly it could be a future larger problem that may have to do with the structure of the floor or something related to the floor. I would rather make sure it's addressed while still under warranty. I'm curious if you or anyone else has found that floor squeaks have led to finding larger problems?
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My 2005 that we took delivery of in June as about 2500 miles on it and about 20-25 nights of camping. So far the only issues are the skylight has a crack around one of the fasteners that leaks and the edge banding on the bathroom door was not adhered well. I also discovered that Airstream installed a 11,000 btu/h a/c when it was supposed to have a 13,500 btu/h. They promptly sent a replacement which will be installed when the new skylight comes in. Overall - I'm satisfied with the quality.
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