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Old 11-10-2005, 08:00 AM   #1
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1970's History Lesson Please?

Hello all. I just read a thread (New Vintage Owner) about one of our members just making a purchase of a '79 Ambassador. I have a '72 Ambassador and the thread listings under Ambassador list them as early as '59.

Now a guy at the Airstream Homecoming told me that the Ambassador was a rare breed of Land Yacht. I only saw one other at the homecoming and I haven't seen that many in here and it kind of re-enforces what this gentleman told me, but if Airstream made Ambassadors for at least 20 years, there should be tons of them!

Maybe Fred Coldwell might oblige by chiming in here, but what I'd really like to know is a little history about the 70's Airstreams and the Ambassador along with the other models (Sovereign, Overlander, Excella, Safari, and Tradewind) made in the 70's.

What kind of numbers was Airstream putting out on these models in the 70's? What made them different from each other?

Any information anyone might have would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 11-10-2005, 08:44 AM   #2
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Ben, the Ambassador was not as plentiful as the other models. It was a tad shorter than desired for the "park it and live in it" crowd, and too long for the vacationers. The reason relatively more seem to be out there now, is that the ones that were built, tended to not be used as much, and so are in better shape.AFAIK, Airstream considers production numbers proprietary, so actual real numbers may be tough to come by, especially year by year.
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:37 PM   #3
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Why in the heck are production numbers proprietary?????? Jeez, what does Airstream think people are going to do with that info?

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Old 11-10-2005, 04:55 PM   #4
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Why in the heck are production numbers proprietary?????? Jeez, what does Airstream think people are going to do with that info?

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It shows how many trailers they made, and can be used to see how much money they made/lost.
Imagine having to send out your personal financial statements to anyone every time someone was curious about how much you made last year?
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Thor Industries is a publicly traded company, on the NYSE. Their symbol is THO. They have to release their financial statements anyway, so I still don't see how releasing how many Airstreams they made each year affects their financial disclosure.

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I agree with Frederic, financial statements are easily obtainable for any publicly traded company. I don't understand the mystery with this part of the history of a great company. Many have written about this weird qwirk of corporate secrecy.

In fact, I suspect that Airstream (or Thor) could make a few bucks if they were to publish this information in the form of a book or other publication "for sale" and "properly copywrited". From searching their website, they seem more than willing to provide safety information (thankfully) and sales information (Uhhhhh....). Why not celebrate the rich history of a wonderful company by telling your story, over and over again? Marketing people always ask "what is your company's greatest asset"? Their answer always seems to be "your brand". Cool, let us know about it,over and over again. That's what advertisers are paid big bucks for, isn't it?

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2004 Annual Report

Here is a link to last years Annual Report.

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Sounds like the US Navy submarines. They will move "over 20 knots" and "deeper than 200 feet".
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I agree with Frederic, financial statements are easily obtainable for any publicly traded company. I don't understand the mystery with this part of the history of a great company. Many have written about this weird qwirk of corporate secrecy.

In fact, I suspect that Airstream (or Thor) could make a few bucks if they were to publish this information in the form of a book or other publication "for sale" and "properly copywrited". From searching their website, they seem more than willing to provide safety information (thankfully) and sales information (Uhhhhh....). Why not celebrate the rich history of a wonderful company by telling your story, over and over again? Marketing people always ask "what is your company's greatest asset"? Their answer always seems to be "your brand". Cool, let us know about it,over and over again. That's what advertisers are paid big bucks for, isn't it?

Just my two cents. Jim

Hey, Chevrolet does it with the Corvette....it's called the Corvette Black Book. It lists production numbers, colors, options.

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Old 11-10-2005, 08:42 PM   #10
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Here is a link to last years Annual Report.

http://www.thorindustries.com/corpor...nualReport.pdf
...and not a single Airstream trailer shown. Hmpt!

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...and not a single Airstream trailer shown. Hmpt!

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And not a single line that says "Total number of units sold" anywhere. Lots of $$$ shown, but no quantities sold.
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It actually is publicized, but only dealers see it. We receive a report of how many units each mfg sells per month, quarter, year, etc. It shows actual hard numbers. Like right now, Coachmen has the best selling Class C motorhome in the country by a landslide. I don't have the report handy to tell you the exact numbers, I think I threw it out, but I don't think it's really "classified".

We get them from our MFG's so they can show us how good they are doing and build our confidence in the product.
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In the case of the older trailers it may be a matter of non existent or lost records....but they must have some idea of total production or they wouldn't be able to substantiate the claim that 60% of all Airstreams ever built are still on the road....

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Oh trust me, they know the numbers. The company would be a fool if it didn't have on record every single trailer that's rolled off it's line. That's how they improve on their product, by knowing which models sold the most numbers, in which floorplan, in which color, etc.

I assure you, they have the records.
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