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Old 06-10-2018, 07:45 PM   #43
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Should anybody be interested in purchasing a 1955 Commodore Vanderbilt, there is one that just has popped up in Airstream Forum Classifieds today! I sure would like to know the history and serial number. Now, we have two real Commodores now known to be in true aluminum skin!!! The layout is very similiar, except this has only one bed near the bathroom, while I have twins in the area. If this is yours, please private message me so we can talk.

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Old 06-11-2018, 03:42 PM   #44
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I will not be attending this year.
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Old 06-11-2018, 03:49 PM   #45
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To All: Just an Update

I have spoken to the gentleman that is the current owner of the Commorode Vanderbilt that is for sale, and he has informed me that it is Serial Number 5042. Our Serial Number is 5062. Accordingly, it is believed that the group of serial numbers for 30' 1955 Trailers range from 5042 to 5062 or 5075. This group is for both Commodore Vanderbilts and SORT Trailers. Joe, did I get this information right? If not, please advise the corrects info. By the way, the one currently for sale just might be Wally's personal "Caravan" trailer.

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Old 06-12-2018, 06:22 PM   #46
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I have spoken to the gentleman that is the current owner of the Commorode Vanderbilt that is for sale, and he has informed me that it is Serial Number 5042. Our Serial Number is 5062. Accordingly, it is believed that the group of serial numbers for 30' 1955 Trailers range from 5042 to 5062 or 5075. This group is for both Commodore Vanderbilts and SORT Trailers. Joe, did I get this information right? If not, please advise the corrects info. By the way, the one currently for sale just might be Wally's personal "Caravan" trailer.

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Hard to say for sure what the exact model year breakpoints were in the early to mid 1950s since the model year was not encoded in the serial number and there is not an exact calendar date that the breakpoint occurred. But the late 1950s, the breakpoints become clearer. Assuming that the model year change occurred in mid September back then ( it's mid-May now), the start of Ohio built 30-footers was probably about O-5037, give or take. The last Ohio built 30-footer appears to be O-5064, because in a rare stroke of luck O-5065 is recorded as a 1956 model. In the other hand O-5066 was built before O-5065, so it might be the last 1955. It seems that during model changeover, there was sometimes some intermixing and not a clean breakpoint back then.
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Old 08-26-2018, 11:45 AM   #47
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Commodore Vanderbilt... what do you think?

So this followed me home yesterday. Serial number 5125. Whale tail = California? Layout very CV from the 'blue brochure'!! I would love someone with more historical knowledge to chime in! Thanks!

p.s. sorry about the sideways photos.. not sure how to rotate them.
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Old 08-26-2018, 07:13 PM   #48
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So this followed me home yesterday. Serial number 5125. Whale tail = California? Layout very CV from the 'blue brochure'!! I would love someone with more historical knowledge to chime in! Thanks!

p.s. sorry about the sideways photos.. not sure how to rotate them.
Hi Ryan,
In my opinion, you have the first "proven" California built 1955 Commodore Vanderbilt. As you noted, the floor plan exactly matches the one in the California Commodore Vanderbilt brochure (except for the kitchen counter extension forward of the oven, that could have been added later, since it's laminate top is a separate piece). Because that brochure is marked cancelled, it is possible that only a single prototype was built. In that case, that would be the trailer you have. Even if a few more were built before the model was cancelled, you have a very rare trailer that should be preserved rather than modernized, in my opinion. In total, 30-footers were pretty rare in 1955, and I am sure most that were built were not Commodores.

This brings the number of known Commodore Vanderbilts to 3 total: 2 from Ohio and 1 from California. The rumored Commodore Vanderbilt that was supposed to attend the WBCCI International Rally in Salem, Oregon in June never showed up. Perhaps it never existed and the rumor mill just got confused.
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Old 08-27-2018, 09:49 PM   #49
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Thanks Joe and I appreciate the information!! I was really trying to figure out what I had. I originally thought it was a 53-54 liner based on page 17 of the 1954 brochure in the Airstream archive.

https://www.airstream.com/wp-content...a4ab3b81dd.pdf

It is very close but the street side windows are not quite right and then 3 roof vents and round marker lights were inconsistent.

Based on the title, which I didn't put much faith in, it says 32 foot, 1956 but other than the serial number plate there are no other markings on the trailer to identify it. I need to check in and around cabinets for factory markings yet. I will try and get as much information as possible from the previous owner but I'm pretty sure it sat in a tree row for about 30-40 years.

Here is a photo of the street side to show the window configuration matching the photos in the brochure you posted. Please disregard the tape as I didn't want to lose any important parts on the 400 plus mile recovery.

It would be nice to find manuals or appliance information, etc.

Thanks!
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Old 08-28-2018, 01:00 AM   #50
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Thanks Joe and I appreciate the information!! I was really trying to figure out what I had. I originally thought it was a 53-54 liner based on page 17 of the 1954 brochure in the Airstream archive.

https://www.airstream.com/wp-content...a4ab3b81dd.pdf

It is very close but the street side windows are not quite right and then 3 roof vents and round marker lights were inconsistent.

Based on the title, which I didn't put much faith in, it says 32 foot, 1956 but other than the serial number plate there are no other markings on the trailer to identify it. I need to check in and around cabinets for factory markings yet. I will try and get as much information as possible from the previous owner but I'm pretty sure it sat in a tree row for about 30-40 years.

Here is a photo of the street side to show the window configuration matching the photos in the brochure you posted. Please disregard the tape as I didn't want to lose any important parts on the 400 plus mile recovery.

It would be nice to find manuals or appliance information, etc.

Thanks!
Interesting - This may take more study and I may eventually change my opinion.

Your windows look more like the style used from 1955 thru 1958 in California and match the the California Commodore brochure, so I don't think you have a 1954 Liner even though the floor plan is similar. The serial number suggests it is a 1955 or early 1956, but we don't know the exact breakpoints. I think I see enough streetside window placement differences to say you do not have the Commodore Brochure trailer.

I am starting to wonder if there really is no such thing as a California Commodore Vanderbilt, since the 1954 Liner brochure floorplan is almost identical. Perhaps Airstream California considered naming all it's 1955 30-footers Commodore Vanderbilts and then changed their mind, thus marking the brochure as "cancelled". Maybe your trailer is just the "standard" 1955 California 30-footer floorplan.

This is in difference to the Ohio Commodore Vanderbilts that seemed to have a floorplan that was "unique" . . . or at least different from other 30-footers it built.

Food for thought for sure. More study of rare 1955 30-footets may be required as they turn up to really determine the answer.
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Old 08-28-2018, 08:29 AM   #51
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Ca cv / ca sotr

Good Morning Joe and Ryan,
Ryan, what city or state did it come from? Any history to share?

Upon a comparison with the CA CV Brochure, it looks very similiar with a variation in the window placement.

Would you be able to post a photo of the Serial Number Plate? Although not an expert on my end, for sure, the serial number research and comparison with other trailers layouts and their serial numbers and year on their title suggests a 1956 SOTR. No matter what, CV or SOTR, you found a very nice trailer that deserves restoration. It sure would be neat if it was a CA CV. Joe will be the Man who can figure all this stuff out.

Should you want to compare anything between trailers, please reach out/PM me. Congrats on your find!
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Good Morning Joe and Ryan,
Ryan, what city or state did it come from? Any history to share?

Upon a comparison with the CA CV Brochure, it looks very similiar with a variation in the window placement.

Would you be able to post a photo of the Serial Number Plate? Although not an expert on my end, for sure, the serial number research and comparison with other trailers layouts and their serial numbers and year on their title suggests a 1956 SOTR. No matter what, CV or SOTR, you found a very nice trailer that deserves restoration. It sure would be neat if it was a CA CV. Joe will be the Man who can figure all this stuff out.

Should you want to compare anything between trailers, please reach out/PM me. Congrats on your find!
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Thanks for the information and I very much appreciate the expertise. It is pretty confusing when looking between the brochures and the archive at photos of the various 30' options! There is not a lot of concrete information between the trailers and there seems to be a good amount of variance from one to another. I would be interested to see what the total production was for each trailer from each plant!

As for the trailer that I found, it was recovered from a farmstead in eastern SD. According to the previous owner it was stuck in the tree row for the last 30-40 years and basically spent those years as a storage shed. I've attached a photo of the serial number plate. I also attached a photo of the roof for further comparison.

I do agree that the windows take away the possibility of being the trailer on the blue brochure. The street side windows on my trailer are all equal distance apart and the drip caps virtually touch each other on all four windows.

I'm still just trying to weed out options based on photos out there and 1956 SOTR seems to have the door shifted towards the wheels (mid trailer). However, that doesn't account for the variance in factories. I still tend to find the most similarities with a CA CV but either way it is an exciting find for me personally!

Thanks again for all the sleuthing and help with trying to figure this out!
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