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Old 12-21-2006, 09:55 AM   #1
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16 vs 19 foot

Hi, I am currently trying to decide on a 16 foot versus a 19 foot bambi or safari. I own a 1967 25 foot (tradewind) and it is too much for me to tow. I want something that i can live in in extreme northern climates, but that is also easy to tow, as I am not much of a tower. Unfortunately, I don't live near anywhere where I can try these out before I buy one. I would appreciate any insight anyone might have.

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Old 12-21-2006, 09:59 AM   #2
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For one person or couple without a pet, I'd say a 16'. The 19' I had I used with my wife, our dog and I and it was somewhat stressful because space is somewhat limited. The 19' has a larger fridge, stove, tanks, etc and that is why I'd suggest a 19' over the 16'. If you don't use a lot of water, don't stock a lot of provisions, clothes and it's really just you and a significant other, the 16' might squeek you by. I noticed that you have a 2006 Tundra. It should be able to tow either without any issues.
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When my wife and I were shopping for our Airstream some of the best advice we got from here was from those posters who told us, "nobody ever regretted having too much space".

I'm glad we listened!
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thanks for that. someone with a 16 footer for sale said that the bed layout was better than in the 19. do you agree?
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I started with the 16 foot CCD. Was fun, but limited on space, for sure. There are two of us and two chihuahuas. We got along fine, but it didn't take us long to realize that we needed more space to move around and store our stuff. Shower is small and there is no oven in the 16. We had to add a microwave on the table which further reduced the space to live in. Bathroom is nearly impossible to use in the 16 too. I agree with the others, you can never have too much space! Good luck!
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3 feet less is alot of space to give up for where a bed is placed. I'd have to review the floorplan to say which i liked better, more importantly which is more to your liking? But I will say the one extra foot we compared from a 30' to our 31' was the difference in a bigger bathroom and storage.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:28 AM   #7
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thanks for that. someone with a 16 footer for sale said that the bed layout was better than in the 19. do you agree?
I would agree with that, but the overall living space on the 19' is more functional.

I can't say enough about having a contained shower vs. a wet-bath. That was the deal-sealer for us between the two models. Additionally, we put an overhead bunk in the back with gave us more storage space for stuff.

Myself, my wife, and my dog spent 28 days through the summer in our 19' CCD and found the space tight but very comfortable. We did however utilize the dinette bed a couple times (pregnancy, and the night before Ironman), but both of us sleep relatively comfortably in the double bed. I would love something bigger to be honest, but it's all a trade off.

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hi ren and welcome to the forums...

you might want to share a few of the issues

that make towing the tradewind 'too much' for ya...

yes a 16s and 19s are shorter...

but your 25 is narrower, which means it is easier to see around,

your 25 is no heavier than the new 19s...

the 25 may actually have a lower tongue weight too..

and your 25 has 2 axles which most folks feel improves the towing experience...

as for 'extreme climates' again all a/s have issues...

but for extreme/remote locations the 67 has more lpgas appliances...

it would be better than a unit with 'electricity dependent' issues...

also you mention 'live in' does this mean full time or just lots of travel?

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Also be aware that the 16" does not have separate gray and black water tanks.
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well ren...

just read your other posts.

IF what you need is a 'winter house'...

while your new stick house is built...

buying any NEW tiny a/s isn't the best option...

if you really want an a/s for the winter hut...

find an 80s unit 25-30 foot...

have someone tow it into your spot...

you will have better heat, tanks, space, windows, more appliances, and so on...

for 1/4th the price of a new bambi 'park model'...

and no one will confuse the very large lpgas tank you will need...

with the trailer!

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Old 12-21-2006, 11:19 AM   #11
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One other thing to consdier is the livable space. The 19' Bambi, and I measured ours is actually 16' of livable space. The remaining 3' is the front "A" frame and tail.

Seemed to be consistant along the line too. My 25' actually has about 22' of livable interior space. I don't know if that is the case with the 16' or others for sure, but I can say without question that's what I recall when I measured our Bambi and Safari.
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Old 12-21-2006, 11:26 AM   #12
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Dennis I may be mistaken but the 30" and 31' Airstream are actually the same length. The interior layout is just different with the dinett being closer to the coach in the 31'.
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well, 2air seems like good advice. we just went out and checked our 25 footer again. i agree, the double axle is nice. but the problem is it needs some serious interior work, and i will have to hire someone to do it, and that means all winter for the project. if i was handy, i'd do it myself. but i think i'm going to have to sell it as is, and buy something else. i do want a winter hut, but the thing is, i don't know where it will end up, thus the need to tow. i am still exploring the northwest extensively, and i hate hotels, and i have a lot of gear. so.
you mentioned the new ones have electicity issues. don't most of the appliances run in electric and gas?
i'm feeling that i'll have to drive to spokane washington (the closest dealer - 18 hours away) and try towing both the 16 and 19 to get a feel. but i can't afford to buy brand new, so i'll have to be searching around for something affordable in the meantime.
whew! long post....
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hi ren...

if you have lots of gear...

the 16s have very little carry capacity...

19s better but not much...

you had the right idea with the tradewind...

just 2 decades 2 old, or needing 2 much work...

an argosy in 23-26 size from the 70s

or a/s from early/mid 80s would need very little work..

to use right away...

there is a chap on the forum here, and not far from you...

who does some fine, yet reasonably priced units from days past...

send him a pm, he might just have a trailer for you...

http://www.airforums.com/forum...2Bingalls.html

darol is good guy and a fine judge of older airstreams...

and keep us updated in your search...


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