Please be aware that there is a person out there who is sending emails to people with units for sale with less than honorable intentions. He agrees to buy your unit at the asking price, requests your check routing number and says that he will put the money in your account by a certain date. Then he will have his "driver" pick the unit up after that. Not to worry, he assures, BUT he is not on the up and up. This has happened to 2 of my friends. Please do not give out information unless you are sure you know who you are dealing with. I don't want to see any of our good airstreamers get burned out there.
Its interesting to hear this scam since we had an article in the local paper about a fellow who sold his pickup to a fellow who apparently paid with a bogus cashiers check. It wasn't till 5 days later did the seller find out that the check was bad. At that point the fradulent buyer had the guys Missouri title, retitled the vehicle in Iowa (who has no waiting period for title verification) and then sold the truck to a someone else who subsequently sold the vehicle again. What's even worse is the original seller cancelled his insurance on the truck the day before it was picked up so insurance will not cover the loss, and the court in Iowa has taken the vehicle from the final purchaser who bought the truck for all intents in good faith.
The final paragraph in the story said that the safest way was to have the buyer of your vehicle directly wire transfer the money to your checking account therefore you could be postive that the funds were there. This recent story now trashes that idea since you can't wire the funds if the buyer doesn't know your account number.
It sounds like the only safe way is to get the cashiers check but hold onto the title and trailer until you know that the check is good.
Jack
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Cash is king, or take the buyer with you to the bank and have them verify the funds on the check, caashier or otherwise, before you start signing stuff. if they won't agree to go to the bank with you then there is something fishy going on.
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That's what my PO did. Since there was no bank in his area that would cash my personal check immediately, he took it anyway and waited til it cleared before giving me title.
I got an e-mail from that guy when I had my Traveler up for sale. When I e-mailed a couple of times about his shipper (I knew it was not lagit) I got a couple of responses but as I pressed for more information on his shipper - I never heard from him again. My plan was to find out the shipper, then I was going to have him wire money into an account that I was planning to set up just for this purpose. That way if they tried to get anything - there was nothing to get. Plus the brokerage house that I use I 've been working with for 25 years so I had them on the alert to watch for any transactions out of that account.
However, like I said it never went anywhere - my plan was to catch these folks and put them where they belong. I think they were at least smart enough to figure that out.
Could you name names of the party in ???? I think this would help people like myself who are currently looking for an AS- either new or used, to avoid getting scammed.
I had a rather strange dealing about a '91 21 or 22' Soveriegn that was for sale (8500.00) by Vintagetrail in Eugene, OR., but the trailer was in Indiana, and was told that I could not go see the trailer up close and in person, unless I paid for the trailer 1st!!! I am only three hours from where this trailer was stored. I did get photos, but they were rather fuzzy and could not talk to me much about the trailer.
Needless to say, I passed. Use common sense. Not everyone is as honest as you or I....ones worst AS experiance should not be the actuall purchase.
Originally posted by Ken Johansen My plan was to find out the shipper, then I was going to have him wire money into an account that I was planning to set up just for this purpose. Ken
This is an excellent plan. As an alternative, most banks actually have their own account set up to receive wire payments. They will allow you to have money wired to their account. Once the payment is received, they can transfer the money from their account into your account. You can ask for their wire account number, and they'll always give it to you for that purpose if you're a customer.
Roger
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I sold a man from Vt. a beautiful airstream. He gave me a legit. cashiers check. I gave him the title and the airstream. Before I got back home, (I met him half way) he had stopped payment. I found out anyone can stop payment on a Postal Money Order or a cashiers check. I agree with the other guy, "when you are the seller, cash is KING"
Sold a flats boat outfit here in Florida to a guy down the street...asked for cash even though he lived close...
just been a policy beat into me with bank drafts that take days to clear and all money instruments can be canceled...
so I take the cash to the bank to deposit it and they checked every $100 dollar bill two ways to see if they were real...took some time as there were many of them...I realized that cash isn't necessarily cash anymore!!! Go to a bank and make sure the transaction is clean is the only way!!...jem
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I saw your Motorhome. I just sold a 1979 Excella MH on Ebay last week. I just bought it. It felt like I was driving my house down the road. Sold it--then got a 1969 Land yacht--loved it. Going to Mt. for the month of August. We light the refrigerator last week. Next thing we know, we have a convertible. Burned. Leak in the line. Trying to salvage some cost selling the darn parts.
We light the refrigerator last week. Next thing we know, we have a convertible. Burned. Leak in the line. Trying to salvage some cost selling the darn parts.
Sorry! Hope everybody is safe...I noticed all the items on ebay and wondered what happened.
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