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Old 02-21-2006, 09:53 PM   #15
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the warning systems seems like a weird sort of intraverts way of asking someone to mind their manners......my guess is that there are only a handful of folks who've received cautions recently...and we can likely guess who they are ....and then there are the sperm sellers and other odd getrichquick posters...but they vanish quickly here.

what i'd like to know is why did all the posts after 7:34pm vanish in this thread.......?
http://www.airforums.com/forum...low-20890.html

they were all very polite......i think. did they get "forwarded" as mentioned above to geeeee'em or some other government agency?

is discussing enzymes considered porn?

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I just noticed that. I didn't find anything wrong with it especially the next several posts. A little Detroit talk, my hubby's at GM too here in Detroitland. Tough times. Anyway a little flash in the pan and then a nice response from you 2air that probably wasn't going to be read.

We better tiptoe around.
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Old 02-21-2006, 09:56 PM   #16
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Well I get this picture when I'm posting, and then I hear this voice...
That's the ticket Steph! That's what I need to keep me grounded. punny

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First a warning meter

Next, Commies running everywhere. That's why those big numbers are red.
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Old 02-22-2006, 07:04 AM   #18
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On the closed e85 posting I wonder if someone is an environmentalist and didn't like the direction! I'll take the hit on my meter for free speech!
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Old 02-22-2006, 07:11 AM   #19
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On the closed e85 posting I wonder if someone is an environmentalist and didn't like the direction! I'll take the hit on my meter for free speech!
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The thread was closed down at the discretion of the moderation staff. It was becoming a flame war with personal attacks which are not tolerated. As far as I know no one was warned for any posts in that thread. May I direct your attention to the Community Policies second paragraph
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Old 02-22-2006, 07:30 AM   #20
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Then I must assume that some posts were removed and I didn't see them. Right? If that is so then it makes sense.
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Old 02-22-2006, 07:34 AM   #21
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Then I must assume that some posts were removed and I didn't see them. Right? If that is so then it makes sense.
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Yes we deleted some posts prior to locking the thread. They did not really add anything to the subject of the thread.

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Old 02-22-2006, 07:40 AM   #22
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That is too bad. That thread was very interesting and there was still a lot to say. I guess since politics get involved that it might generate some hostility but can't we all just get ALONG!
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That is too bad. That thread was very interesting and there was still a lot to say. I guess since politics get involved that it might generate some hostility but can't we all just get ALONG!
No, apparently we can't "all just get along" sometimes. That's why the moderation staff removes posts and locks threads. It would be delightful if we didn't have to.

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learning to get along......

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It was becoming a flame war with personal attacks which are not tolerated. As far as I know no one was warned for any posts in that thread. May I direct your attention to the Community Policies second paragraph Aaron

No, apparently we can't "all just get along" sometimes. That's why the moderation staff removes posts and locks threads. It would be delightful if we didn't have to.Roger
hello roger, aaron, the mods.......and others

i understand you're volunteers (i think) and time is a premium...but it does seem that folks could benefit from a more detailed explaination...either at the end of the thread when locked, or by private message......so as not to commit the same transgression again....

there were several posts by me and i don't recall attacking anyone....also wasn't trying to spark a flame. if i did either, i would certainly want to know about it......even without a formal warning.

we can learn from the examples...not from deletions.

there was some humor, some nonsense, some big corporation discussion...but i missed the threats and so on....must have happened after logging off?

also if there was some personal attack directed toward me, or anyone...the person would want to know about that...again even if communicated privately.....it would seem purdent to do this.

personal communications carry some liability....for the sender and the forum....i'm not sure just deleting them removes that liability....and certainly doesn't educate anyone about the transgression....

there are plenty of threads here with posts that seem as odd, silly, useless or quasi political and yet are interesting to some....that aren't deleted. i also realize these are sometimes judgement calls.....while some wrongful posts are obvious......

so perhaps the goal of 'getting along' could be furthered by elaborating when a thread runs afoul. this wouldn't take much effort and might save time later so as to not repeat the foul...

one thing is sure.......
expecting folks to tiptoe around the unknown....
doesn't really help us get along.
just some thoughts.........

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The difficulty in any online format is that it is online. We can't see your facial expression, read your tone of voice, or any other body language that indicates the meaning of your words. It is always good to ere on the side of nicety.

Way to go Moderators for removing personal attacks before they are seen. I don't think there is a need to say that we erased a post because so and so said this or that.

Sorry it is vague. Yes people should be able to just choose to read something or not, to ignore the conversations they find offensive. But we are a community, meaning we have to be sensitive to all in the community. If you stick to the topic of Airstreams, Airstreaming, etc you should have no problems. It is when the thread begins to slide from the topic of how politics, money, etc affects Airstreaming that readers begin to consider the post "off topic."

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If you stick to the topic of Airstreams, Airstreaming, etc you should have no problems. It is when the thread begins to slide from the topic of how politics, money, etc affects Airstreaming that readers begin to consider the post "off topic."

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So now I really am becoming uneasy. If you hadn't added that dreaded word politics I would have been okay, but now I feel that someones environmental views are at play here and I really don't think that is a good thing.

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Jim,

I assure you that you're reading things into this that aren't there. Many threads deal with political topics from oil prices to public land use. We consider that appropriate. The E85 thread was very informative until it got off-topic. You are free to voice your opinions on just about any subject you choose as long as the way you express it isn't offensive. We've had some pretty far-ranging discussions and I've been a frequent poster in some of them. Opinions, when appropriately and properly expressed, are encouraged. Anything that can be construed as an attack on another member violates the "play nice" policy and those posts get zapped and threads get closed as a result. Unfortunately sometimes the folks who posted may not have considered what they posted offensive. Intervention is seldom done by a single moderator without discussion on the Moderator's Forum. There is generally a consensus reached by several moderators before permanent action is taken.

I hope that clears this up for you.

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