Originally Posted by Andy R
...So what's your problem?
one interpretation of the quote above is that it's a question...
so i'll reply WITH an actual answer.
of course it could just be a personalized inflammatory comment
directed at a regular member HERE by the owner.
one might interpret that the "be nice concept" is only for rank and file?
so the issue becomes HOW to answer this question
or have an intelligent exchange with someone...
who can delete the post, close the thread or suspend the member...
typing on egg shells
seems to apply here now.
my previous posts IN THIS thread express the concern (problem) i have.
NO WHERE have i personalized the exchange OR suggested "to simply remove them all from the home page"
that is NOT my opinion and is NOT part of any post here.
clearly you've MIS interpreted or MIS applied a private exchange, that's too bad.
so lets looks at what is happening HERE these last 2 weeks.
members acting like CHILDREN start threads announcing they are...
-being censored on ANOTHER forum (the wb')
-quitting the wb' because of this censorship or club irresponsibility
-then they "praise" how FREE they are HERE to bash the wb' without being censored.
others POSITIVE toward the wb' announce they are "quitting" AIRforums...
and THEIR thread titles get edits to omit the AIR word.
at the SAME TIME these 'quitting threads' are running their course, and other boorish wb' stuff is REHASHED yet again...
1. SOME OF US are encouraged via PM to "promote the air 'clubs and groups' page in those wb' threads...
2. a "national/international rally" is suggested for these forums...
3. a separate section on the PORTAL PAGE is developed that is for "official club threads"
and so on...
it's been written HERE many times that the goal HERE wasn't to compete or replace the wb'...
but these actions taken ALL TOGETHER suggest something else.
my concern is seeing THIS PLACE stay healthy and evolve.
with the ONLY TOOL available to regular members...
imo the recent actions are laying down with a toxic club that is on the decline...
and will spread the toxin HERE.
there is NO NEED to compete with the wb OR encourage it's decline...
it will survive or NOT of it's own doing.
the LAST time there were an overwhelming # of negative/conflicting wb' threads dragging THIS PLACE down...
it was suggested to the principles to TAKE IT ELSEWHERE.
and they did EXACTLY THAT and the 'save wally' website was born.
THAT was and is a good thing.
volleying NOW with the new wb' site OR it's owner is NOT a good thing.
the toxin WILL SPREAD.
i also realize that a LOT of FOLKS here enjoy or WANT the wb' threads and debates and info...
and that they see THIS PLACE as the media for fixing the club's many issues.
that's fine but THINK about what enabling those actions does TO THIS PLACE and it's primary value.
and MY taking time to POST these comments comes from a desire to keep AIR healthy.
nothing more or less and straight from the heart.
while these comments might represent a DISSENTING VIEW, that IS the nature of OPEN THREADS.
at one time HERE it was considered healthy to freely but politely exchange views.
i'm doing my part in that exchange, are you?
IF otoh the point of the o.p. was JUST to announce the PORTAL change.
the announcement should have been closed to ANY replies OR made a CLOSED sticky somewhere...
at least THAT WAY we would not be BUMPING this announcement to the top for more folks to read and think about...