View Poll Results: Would you attend an AIR National Rally?
Yes, I'd be there for sure! 34 22.97%
Yes, I'd go if it was less then one day drive away! 43 29.05%
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Old 12-26-2009, 08:55 AM   #85
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I'll throw in my push for disorganization here. Currently over at the ol' WBCCI, there's a push (motion 26 of the winter IBT, for those familiar) to at least put the idea in front of the execs. that a national rally is too much. Granted, the suggestion of motion 26 is to have a rotating regional rally that is "supported" by local groups when it's in their area and "designated" as the "national" rally. My point here is that by going after an AIR-national rally, we are progressing toward a national organization and all of the perils that it entails. The beauty of AIR Forums and the rallies that stem from it is that they are informal and there's very little organization. I'd love for there to be a larger gathering of AIR forums people as the AIR rallies that I've gone to have been great. BUT as soon as we start collecting money and organizing things like big-ticket entertainment and alcohol then you're setting people up for some trouble.

Here's what should be conditions of an AIR forums rally:

1. Each attending trailer is responsible to make their own reservation and pay money to the hosting site by themselves. There will be no mass-reservation by one person. Rationale: all responsibility and cost falls on the individual and the liability is on the hosting site, i.e. campground, state park.

2. Any alcohol is brought by the individual. Period. Rationale: liability. If you bought it and brought it, then the group / organizer is in no way responsible. Those not consuming alcohol or otherwise offended by it are not set-off by the thought that their rally fee contributed to it.

3. Any organizational expenses will be paid by the person who incurs them. Doing such a task that requires money will be done without the expectation that it will be paid back in any way shape or form via a "rally fee" or anything else. They are doing volunteer work. The only means of reimbursement would be via a "donation jar" at a common location at the rally. Organizers could state the total of expenses and ask that donations be made to offset, but there would be no required rally fee by anyone in attendance. Rationale: if you able to and want to donate / pay for the rally, do so. But, if you volunteer to be an organizer then you are exactly that: a volunteer. You are DONATING time and money for a greater good without expectation of getting any benefit other than seeing a group of people enjoying themselves.

Maybe we would never find a venue that would be willing to take 100+ trailers, but that's the cost of getting a place which absolves Airforums and the organizers of all liability.

Let's not add complication and structure about money and liability to a loosely organized group that works well already. Let's target guidelines that eliminate structure...if that's possible! . If we can ensure 1-3 above, then I'm in!

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Old 12-26-2009, 09:20 AM   #86
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The smaller Airforum rallies that have happened, have been for the most part quite successful and not over organized. How about having 4 separate Airforums rallies, run as in the past but all coming together at the same place. 4 groups planning, North, South, East and West all with the same time line and location. Only a quarter of the effort needed by any one person.
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Old 12-26-2009, 09:32 AM   #87
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Im sorry I have been AWOL here and just read you comment. I know there was structure. That being that Dave and Rhonda did all the contact work because they live 10 miles from the campground. They were the driving force. But Other than that I saw NO Presidents or VP's or 3rd VP's from 16 yrs ago to muck up a great time. I just hope they are up to doin it again. Run over and join us next yr.
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My family and I are going to try and make it. I do not see any dates listed yet. I have heard nothing but good things about this rally and we really hope to come. This summer we have a two week trip planned to go as far north as the road will take us. I know that is somewhere in Labrador. Everything is revolving around that trip and we still have not firmed those dates. If we are not on the road, we will come. I owe Dave. He has personally asked me three times in the past to come and this year I want to keep my word.
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The smaller Airforum rallies that have happened, have been for the most part quite successful and not over organized. How about having 4 separate Airforums rallies, run as in the past but all coming together at the same place. 4 groups planning, North, South, East and West all with the same time line and location. Only a quarter of the effort needed by any one person.
Creative thought. Like it.

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Great Idea! Plan things to do like local museum docent led tours, any tour of interest, a hike, bike ride, a local theater company.
I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-30-2009, 10:23 AM   #90
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Last August the Rocky Mountain Vintage Airstream Club had a boondocking rally at the Albany County Fairgrounds in Laramie WY. The field was very large, flat, and recently mowed. They had between 60 and 70 trailers. They erected a large tent for get togethers. They had a generator and very long estension cord for electricity in the tent with no noise. They had six or eight port-o-pottys around the perimiter. It is OK to put wash water on the ground there. Those who needed electricity brought generators. Some shared. They too are tight with New Belgian and had Fat Tire on tap the whole time.

It wasn't expensive, but sure was a fun five days.
Yep, and we will be doing it again in August in Salida, CO!

Many regional fairgrounds have the capability to handle these sorts of things...

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The smaller Airforum rallies that have happened, have been for the most part quite successful and not over organized. How about having 4 separate Airforums rallies, run as in the past but all coming together at the same place. 4 groups planning, North, South, East and West all with the same time line and location. Only a quarter of the effort needed by any one person.
Regional rallies first and if they bloom and grow then a national rally would be a natural.
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We have use of a beautiful fairgrounds with lots of water and electricity hookups in New Hampshire for three days in early May and mid October every year. We use about 50% of the grounds. There is plenty of room left over for such an event.
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