View Poll Results: Would you attend an AIR National Rally?
Yes, I'd be there for sure! 34 22.97%
Yes, I'd go if it was less then one day drive away! 43 29.05%
Yes, I'd go if it was less then a two day drive away! 67 45.27%
No, I don't want to hang out with you! 4 2.70%
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Old 12-23-2009, 09:53 AM   #15
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I think this sounds like a great idea. So many groups get bogged down with Rules and Who is the ruling class that they take the pleasure out of most things. My wife and I enjoy meeting people and getting to know them.
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Old 12-23-2009, 09:55 AM   #16
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I'm in as well and would vote for a mostly unstructured event. The number of attendees would impact what could be done. Some potluck hubs, maybe an outdoor movie?

Travel distance is a consideration and I like the idea of moving it around the country.
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Old 12-23-2009, 09:55 AM   #17
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Sounds like fun - and I like Charlie M's suggestion that we adjust the season for the region chosen. Don't think I'd head South in the heat of summer.

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Old 12-23-2009, 10:03 AM   #18
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Andy,

Let me know when you want to start accepting bids and proposals! The great State of Ohio is ready!

How about a Walleye Rally on the shores of Lake Erie?
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Old 12-23-2009, 10:10 AM   #19
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this issue has been discussed several times, going WAY back to 03 or so...

here's an old poll...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f232...all-21427.html

and thread...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f288...lly-21394.html
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how is this different than any other air rally on the calendar?

they are all open to everyone...

they are all loosely organized...

they range for 2 to 5 days...

they have NO rules (not even the forum rules) and NO ONE to enforce them.
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why call it a national or international or ANY nation thing?

make it galactical!
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NOW if the goal is for the FORUM owner to SPONSOR an annual event...

it's like any other rally...

-pic a date
-pic a location
-start a thread
-get it on the calendar

and so on...

it's been written many times here...

"if you plan/build/post it they will come"
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we've had forum events with over 80 trailers and a couple of hundred people...

LOTS of FUN!

so ANY one of the regular REcurrent events could be designated the "forum annual gig"...

here are/were some VERY POPULAR rally'ez...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f232...6-a-34073.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f232...7-a-37689.html
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as the old poll shows 99% of us would support somethin'

but details are needed.

the thing on the other forum GREW UP from a member based need for a gathering.

so far no one HERE has done that.

while population centers are at the PERIMETER of the country (mostly)...

picking ANY coastal location makes this a REGIONAL event regardless of the name.

since locations like that mean MOST members here (75%) will need to travel 3-5 days to attend...

and is NOT likely to happen.

which brings us back to HOW is this different than the other gigs on the calendar?

r U looking for volunteers to step UP and organize or r U planning to put on an event andy?

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Old 12-23-2009, 10:15 AM   #20
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I, for one would lean toward hook ups, but would consider boondocking. Larger campgrounds usually have some sort of undercover gathering place, which might be a good idea in case of rainy weather.

We haven't talked about a length for this National Rally. I would propose five days that goes through a weekend. That way folks could attend the whole thing or just the weekend.

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While I appreciate both coasts, you have to add the midwest for a set of locations. We do have BUDWEISER here in the midwest!
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Old 12-23-2009, 10:20 AM   #22
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NYS is ready...Letchworth State Park - NYS Parks, Recreation & Historic Preservation

The rotating schedule works very well for our national breed club,(dog show), and we are usually able to attend when it's in our area.

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Old 12-23-2009, 10:24 AM   #23
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there's already a non denominational gig on the books for next summer...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f290...0-a-58563.html

and folks can opt for 2 days or 5 days or anything in between.
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threads like this are great for brain storming...

but almost NEVER work for real planning.

everyones got a vision of WHERE and STYLE and WHEN and HOW...

and those things seldom (never) MESH at the 1000s of folks planing level...
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again, PICK a date, PICK a spot, PICK a theme and get the ball rolling...
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IS the difference THIS TIME that....

-someone (with "forum authority") is gonna COLLECT MONEY and REGISTER PEOPLE and PLAN CATERED MEALS, and so on...??

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basically the feedback will be "when it's close to ME and fits MY schedule, I'LL COME!"

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Old 12-23-2009, 10:30 AM   #24
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2air, the OP states that a "Wagon Master" would be appointed to lead the logistic efforts. They would solicit volunteers from the forums to help them (probably all local to the region so they could scout out locations, activities, etc. The idea to make an already popular rally the official National Rally is a good idea. The difference between the rallies that already happen and this one is basically marketing. We would promote the heck out of it on the site, in email newsletters, etc.

I consider this a big experiment and maybe it will work and maybe not. The same way AIR was a big experiment when it got going. If we do our due diligence we should be fairly successful and if we learn from each event they should get better.

Maybe the name should not even be AIR National Rally. I think AIR National Party would be better!
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Old 12-23-2009, 10:33 AM   #25
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I too would favor something of the boondocking or limited facilities type, preferably somewhere other than a private campground.. Of course we tend to avoid anything with Resort in the name anyway.
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there's already a non denominational gig on the books for next summer...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f290...0-a-58563.html

and folks can opt for 2 days or 5 days or anything in between.
2air, that's an Airstream Life event. What is proposed here would be an AIR Forums event. Maybe one year our National could be in JC as well.
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the OP states that a "Wagon Master" would be appointed to lead the logistic efforts.
They would solicit volunteers from the forums to help them....
so then basically you are soliciting a WAGON MASTER now?

who will do ALL of the real work with volunteers THEY recruit?

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...The difference between the rallies that already happen and this one is basically marketing.
We would promote the heck out of it on the site, in email newsletters, etc....
and the "official forums" role will be to PROMOTE the event?

sorry but that's not doing much.

the O.P. also mentions 'non profit' which lead me to interpret that the FORUM STAFF would be organizing...

but again IF the wagon master is really doing ALL of the work...



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...If we do our due diligence we should be fairly successful and if we...
so who is WE?
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2 b clear...

my post isn't meant to be antagonistic, but rather CLARIFYING...

the "forums" role is just to PROMOTE the event?

ONE of the reasons i spent HOURS gathering the info on EXISTING forums events

and running polls 2 years ago was to encourage THIS PLACE...

TO PROMOTE events that ALREADY had 'wagon masters' and were already happening.

and it went NO WHERE here (the mods hated those polls)
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so back to the o.p.

u r just RELAYING what's happening on another site and suggesting that IF SOMEONE HERE...

does the work...

AIR will do the promotions?

is that it?

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that's an Airstream Life event. What is proposed here would be an AIR Forums event. Maybe one year our National could be in JC as well.
i understand palooza is an ASL event, but the point is, it is OPEN to all forums members and somewhat centrally located.

have 100s from here signed up yet for that gig?

IF you wanna throw AIR support toward PROMOTING a forums gig as the 'official annual'

why not look at the already planned POPULAR things on the calendar and HELP the current WAGON MASTER for those events?

several of them could be made larger or expanded with some support from the home office...

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We = AIR Forums members

Yes, AIR Forums role would be to promote this event. We would also manage the registration process and collect deposit and payments from attendees. Front monies needed for deposits before the monies can be collected, etc. Although a volunteer Wagon Master would lead the effort we would be there working with them and enabling them to host a successful rally. Each year the previous years Wagon Master will help educate the following year's Wagon Master. Just like a party at your house it's fun to host your virtual friends in your neighborhood.

This poll is not intended to solicit a volunteer but instead to get feedback from the members on their desire for an event like this. Although I did not consult the previous polls I did look at the links you posted. This poll is different as it was designed to find out how far members were willing to drive to attend. It looks like he largest responses so far is less then two days. That's useful for planning.
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