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Old 11-13-2009, 02:42 PM   #1
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I don't know how to get viewing activity, but maybe the number of members who are actively posting has some relation to total forum activity. Just something to look into while I'm avoiding the next big Ovelander task...

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Old 11-13-2009, 05:45 PM   #2
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hi zep

thanks for dusting OFF this notion with pretty graphs...

here's my old data of this including viewing...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f138...member-34.html

b'cup did something similar moons ago too..

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f48/...own-24787.html

given ~15-18-20,000 of the mem accounts haven't even LOGGED ON, in 2 years...

much less posted,

we gots LOTs of zombie members buried deep.

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Old 11-13-2009, 06:17 PM   #3
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given ~15-18-20,000 of the mem accounts haven't even LOGGED ON, in 2 years...

much less posted,

we gots LOTs of zombie members buried deep.

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I think the zombies just clog up the members database making it difficult to find members who are still alive and kickin. If possible, I think a purge would be a good idea. Maybe Zep could do another graph. Andy R you got your ears on?
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:23 PM   #4
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OCCASIONALLY 1 long dead member surfaces, even after 2 cold years...

but not many.

i suspect 1000s of those UNopened UNposted accounts are duplicates...

representing folks that FORGOT the name and/or password.

and just REsigned up.

there was a time when viewing as a GUEST gave access to everything here, including search.

like on MOST of the other SN forum sites...

so there was NO benefit to logging in, except to post.

as FEATURES were stripped from guest/portal page folks had do sign IN to search and so on...

anyway the TOTAL accounts is no doubt used to promote this SIZE of this place.

online worlds ALL want to appear larger than they are for obvious reasons.

it would br possible to send an AUTOMATED tickler to long inactive accounts and IF no one is HOME close it...

but i suspect there is ZERO motivation to do this.

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Old 11-13-2009, 07:33 PM   #5
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So... someone who hasn't been active in 3 years but had 250 posts? (fairly common) Exclude them from your views based on that or a higher/lower post number? ... or yet other factors? Never again read early Andy R, Janet, overlander63, RoadKingMoe, leipper (bryanl), InsideOut or femuse posts? I don't know any way to allow diverse members to restrict their views in that manner.

Honestly -- there already is a way to find topics or posts based on the last one year, three years, five years. Just name your time frame via advanced search.

Filtering only on members who have 50? 75? 150+ posts? As a general format this seems like a formula for one of us not knowing what forum the others are seeing. It does seem to be an interesting way to do customizable searches.

These might be proposals to place before the vBulletin group regarding future functionalities. Care to define further? Any of this coming down the pipe will be 'out there' and probably show up in different form than any of us could anticipate.

Challenging ... but interesting!
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:45 PM   #6
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..there already is a way to find topics or posts based on the last one year, three years, five years. Just name your time frame via advanced search...
if ONLY this were so.

advanced S has date options for increments UPTO a year, or BEYOND 1 year...

but no 1,2,3,4,5 year choice.

THAT would be very useful 2me when DREDGING the bottom.

or perhaps the MOD squad has different double secret dredging tools?

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Old 11-13-2009, 08:12 PM   #7
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So... someone who hasn't been active in 3 years but had 250 posts? (fairly common) Exclude them from your views based on that or a higher/lower post number? ... or yet other factors? Never again read early Andy R, Janet, overlander63, RoadKingMoe, leipper (bryanl), InsideOut or femuse posts? I don't know any way to allow diverse members to restrict their views in that manner.
Even if the old members with 0 posts were purged that would significantly reduce the members data base. I would not want to see posts eliminated, just the old and dead data on members that are not there and are taking up space making finding real people time consuming to find in a member search. Of the 34 names on the 1st page of the members list 23 have 0 posts and of these 23 5 became members in 2009. I don't mind lurkers, but the zombies are a problem. I'm not saying members have to post, but maybe a procedure for the confirming membership if, say, a member does not have a post in a year or 2 could be developed.

I always wondered what canned worms taste like.

PS I really like the term Zombies. Never heard it before outside of horror flicks.
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Old 11-13-2009, 08:42 PM   #8
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zero posters

Could "zero" posters be slipped behind a curtain, for none to see, until they sign in again? After maybe a year, or two, if they don't sign in, they are deleted?

Some might be bashful, and don't want to post, but want to read the various posts.

I would bet that many zero posters are not Airstream owners either, but enjoy reading the "how to posts" of others.

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Old 11-13-2009, 08:57 PM   #9
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I agree that it would be good to do some kind of firewall on the zero posters who haven't signed in for a year or two. But that wasn't really where I was going. I was just interested to see where the activity was, you know, map it out. Who'd want to know where the zeros live? I want to visit with members who are posting and have something to say.

Here's a set of waypoints of all the members I deem to be 'active*' in the 11 westen states. It's 191 waypoints. Download this text file (Forums-western members.txt) and then change the extension from ".txt" to ".kml" and open it with Google Earth. The waypoints are accurate to the city, but aren't any more accurate than that. Some members have symbols in their names that aren't allowed in waypoint names, so you might find a (-) in place of a symbol, or a missing ('), etc.

Some of our beloved meatheads (pardon me, "careful members") won't publish their locations, so they float off in the ocean, etc. If anyone finds their own location to be misleading, PM me and I can fix it. OK, OK, full timers aren't meatheads. Maybe we should just put a large fuzzy dot out there for 2Air, Artstream, Gen Disarray, etc..... .......... ............

Any member ready to tackle other sections of the country? Come on.

Whe I look at the sparseness of the activity map out in the 4 corner states, I'm surprised at how active the 4CU is.

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'Lurkers' as a word is not value-charged at a forum but it defines those who read without posting -- whether they joined or never log in at all. Many lurkers do have an Airstream but network via camping companions, other groups or other online entities. I know a variety of people who log in to search but do not post. There are many others who log in only to list an Airstream in Classifieds. That is participation at some level.

Frankly, it is not necessary to exclude anyone by many or zero posts. You can search active members by going to the Members List on the overhead blue tool bar. Click the header labeled 'Posts' and you will order members in terms of declining post numbers. Parse the list any way you wish. For instance, I show 2513 members with 20 or more posts -- most of whom have logged in in the last few months. Zero posters do not show up unless you go out of your way to look for them.

This is a great group of Airstream aficionados! Thanks, karma, mahalo, namaste or any other kudo of your liking!!


[on edit: Zep PM'ed me. We cross posted. His last post and this post are going in different directions. This is his thread and I'd like to see where he is going. Please, let us re-read Zep's post preceding this one. Zep, it is your stage...]
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Y'all are gettin' this all wrong. Some people, like US, just like to babble (a lot). Other folks just like to "troll". Some folks just forgot their logon (Like I did with Reserve America tonight).

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Agreed. I was just looking for a way to map (like really, on a map) the "contributing" members. Maybe "active" was the wrong word. Maybe contributing is, too. For example, of the 24,000 members who have joined since 2000 and have Zero posts, 6270 of them have visited the Forums in 2009. Their eyeballs help keep the Forums financially viable.

There are 125 Zero-posters who offer courtesy parking--49 have used the Forums this year. So maybe I do want to know where the "zeros" live (see post above)! I think offering courtesy parking qualifies strongly as "contributing," but I wonder if you can reliably get ahold of them?

BTW, the "thanks" option at the bottom of the members advanced search simply lists members who meet the other critieria on the search page. Is there a way to search on "thanks"? I stumbled on this, thinking that it would be interesting to see if there are any zero-posters who are contributing members. Now that would be a real interesting bit of trivia. I have to admit that I didn't start contributing right away. Quick, but not immediately. I know I got a huge amount from the Forums before I started posting, back in the day. Now, obviuously, I can't shut up. (gack, I can't believe I've been using the when I meant to use , all these years!)

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Agreed. I was just looking for a way to map (like really, on a map) the "contributing" members. Maybe "active" was the wrong word. Maybe contributing is, too. For example, of the 24,000 members who have joined since 2000 and have Zero posts, 6270 of them have visited the Forums in 2009. Their eyeballs help keep the Forums financially viable.

There are 125 Zero-posters who offer courtesy parking--49 have used the Forums this year. So maybe I do want to know where the "zeros" live (see post above)! I think offering courtesy parking qualifies strongly as "contributing," but I wonder if you can reliably get ahold of them?

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no, nothing as simple as a pie chart! Ve must make somzing complikated. ... I guess I was raised in the age of McNamarra...

more data, Captain!

enuff said, Zep
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