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Old 01-15-2004, 04:43 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Obvious Holes in Forum (Model & Year Sections)

This is in regards to the individual model and year forum.

I have asked that a section be created for the 1974 Excella. I was told by one of the moderators of those sections that only the owner, Andy can make that happen.
I hope he will agree to get to that soon.

But why not just put the sections there for _ALL_ the missing models & years.
Many posters I am willing to bet, will not request the section if it is not there. Many just post the data they have somewhere else on forums.

If I am correct 1974 and 1969 and 198_?_ were sea-change years for Airstream. i.e. years when great changes were made from the past. Yet there are many 74 models not represented in the section.

I am one of a few that have worried that this forum is getting very confusing with 100s of new threads per week many mis-named or misplaced and many redundant or that could better serve if attached to existing threads. I predict that we will one day wish for relief from the maze we are creating. I already have problems with some searches.
One small step to better organize would be a complete selection of model/year sections.
And some reminders to all to use them only if the subject was almost exclusive about that particular model. I think what I mean is easy enough to understand.
I love this place as do many of us, but let us not get complacent that it is perfect and that un-sheparded growth is all good.
Go up to Charlotte N.C. and look at the Sprawl and most other areas of the country too.
Without some more zoning we will soon have forum sprawl!

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Old 01-15-2004, 05:17 PM   #2
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I can tell you that Andy is aware of this issue and there have been plans made to reorganize the trailer forum. Bottom line Andy has a business and things that need to be done and the forum has to fit into those times that he has available.

Most of the moderators attempt to keep things on track but again we are volunteers and some of us have jobs also, so we do the best we can. I know I have moved things out of some specific year trailer threads when the topic is general in nature.

Also note that your moderators have certain forums where their "powers" are applicable. For example I can do things within the trailer forum but not in other forums. So if something is out of place in the off-topic forum for example, the moderator of that forum must do the housekeeping since I have no moderator powers there.

Hopefully this explains a little of what goes on. Please feel free to contact any of the moderators if you see something misplaced. You will find our names next to the forum listings once you hit the forum button at the top of this page.

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Old 02-13-2004, 04:36 PM   #3
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Well it has been almost a month and I would like say that the request has been granted.

Not so.
Do I at least not deserve the courtesy of a reply from Organic Andy?
I don't understand why the separate forum moderators wouldn't be given the authority to perform such logical tasks. Trust your delegates Andy, as you know they seem to have the best interests of your enterprise in mind and many are very computer savy as you surely know. We know about being busy and they are busy sometimes too, but the more fixers the quicker the fix sometimes.

If my count is right there are 59 specified model forums that have never been used or posted to even once. Why not sub the ones that might be requested for some of those that have sat there for 2 years vacant. If you are restricted due to not having any more capacity.

If it is a software impossibility or if it requires expertise not available, just say so and we'll understand.

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Old 02-13-2004, 06:59 PM   #4
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S&V

I was not aware that Airsteam made an Excella in 1974.

At the time the forum was designed/laid out we tried to hit them all, but missed a few. At this time we have identified the ways that they should be grouped so that there is less confusion of where the proper place is to post.

It is not an impossibility, and the program will support it, but a plan to migrate that much data has to be developed so that we are sure to not lose any as well as place it in a format that will better serve the members.
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Old 03-10-2004, 12:08 PM   #5
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I was not aware that Airsteam made an Excella in 1974.
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At the time the forum was designed/laid out we tried to hit them all, but missed a few.* At this time we have identified the ways that they should be grouped so that there is less confusion of where the proper place is to post.
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It is not an impossibility, and the program will support it, but a plan to migrate that much data has to be developed so that we are sure to not lose any as well as place it in a format that will better serve the members.
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Say What!
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Are you a former Clinton staffer*or an independent Spin Doctor?
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Did you doubt that I was telling the truth about having a 1974 Excella 500 months ago when I first posted.?
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Migration of how much data
Do you expect there to be thousands of posts to the 74 Excella section? Doesn't seem to bother you folks when it is reems of off subject blather about someone's dog or BlewBeret yap, or how much beer some bloke can swig, or when so & so quit sharing a bed with their mate or how silly a Japaneese poet one wants to be. How many of the 4000 plus who are members here belong to that dinosoar WBCCI anyway?
But when we request plain good no nonsense accomodations, which you just admitted was do-able we are handed a wagonload of bull.
If you think a section for all models would break the bank or cause the loss of established threads then just open ones that are specifically asked for. Close some that no one has shown any interest in.
Brett you have done a very good job around here and seem to always be ready to help with many differnt matters but your above excuse is just too slick to hold water.It's a dodge.
Are you now the designated point man when Andy doesn't want to answer a question?
I read long ago that Inside Out was revamping the whole section. Then just like the membership stickers the whole subject went silent. No explanation, nothing. It is always manana in some parts of the world. Cyber and real apparently.
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As for how to group things Gosh Fellas is it brain surgery to possibly consider chronologically that is by year,,,HELLO!
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Sorry to have to put it so bluntly but you have just insulted both of us. In fact we have waited weeks to reply, considered leaving forums altogether, then decided your brush-off wasn't going to dictate our style or enjoyment.
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Why don't you butch up and just put it in honest English.* You dont' like our straight talk and so you are not going to grant our wishes. Your double talk explanation is just what this place does not need. Seems that is alot of the problem that is killing your beloved Byam club also.
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Old 03-10-2004, 12:26 PM   #6
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Andy provides this forum free of charge. I'm sure he can give you a full refund if you'd like. Andy (Free service) and the Moderators (free donation of their time) do a great job with this Forum.

I'm sorry that this Forum isn't everything just as you'd like it. This is still, by far, the best place on the Internet for Airstream information.

FYI - There are no model/year sections for the motor homes yet we get by somehow.

The moderators are nice guys trying to be nice. Since you requested plain English with no spin - Quit Whining, It's FREE! Please go and enjoy the forums.
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Old 03-10-2004, 12:56 PM   #7
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Fred spare us your drool.

We have read it all before. Its Free, every body volunteers, yadda yadda yadda. So is that the path to mediocrity or worse..? You better believe it.

You call us whiners we call you a tail kisser. And that is putting it mildly.
Touche.

You obviously are an officer in the "circle the wagon" brigade.

We have been generous (but not gushing) in our praise and appreciation of all who have put this forums together, and none of it was contrived.

To assume that we as members can not nor should not reply with candor about shortcomings of this forum is ignorant and prejudiced of you.

Old gladhanders are a dime a dozen in this world. And the don't make waves crowd is legion as long as the're getting what they want or think they need. Not all of us are blind to those ways.
You travel anyway you want pal. Just don't dream that we need your counsel on how to conduct ourselves.

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Old 03-10-2004, 01:12 PM   #8
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I agree with S&V. I know there are a large number of Classic owners that want a forum but there is nada. I've asked months ago and was told it would happen soon. Nothing.

I don't understand why, if Andy is so busy, that moderators are not given the power to change things?

But don't get me wrong as I apprieciate this forum and everything Andy and the moderstors do. I just want a Classic farum. Too much to ask?
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Old 03-10-2004, 01:13 PM   #9
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I would prefer to see a breakout of the type of beer we drink before a '74 Excella section. And I am drooling as I suggest it.
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Old 03-10-2004, 01:23 PM   #10
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Wow!

S&V, geez! Who peed in your cornflakes?

I'll probably get flamed for this but... while I certainly agree that nothing in the world is perfect, but from the tone of your posts, I think you need to get some perspective!

I have friends and neighbors who are being shot at in Iraq.
We are fighting in two wars with a third on the way...
Our economy is a mess. Our leadership is a mess.
There are drunks killing us on our own roads every day.
There are street gangs out there who prey on our citizens every day.
There are many folks in our own country who are homeless or hungry every day.
There are lonely elderly folks wasting away for want of friendship.
There are children who are growing up in poverty in our country.
Our air and water are being ruined by pollution at an unprecidented rate.
While the jury is out on the full story, our climate may be changing!

There are serious ills in our world to worry about. Whether or not the Forums has a spot for all of our models is probably NOT one of them!

This is a pleasant, informative place for folks to hang out and find out about Airstreams. It's also a place to connect with other folks who share common interests: nothing more, nothing less. It may not be sufficiently organized to suit your tastes. If it is, great. If it isn't, why worry about it? Take what's here at face value, and enjoy the other personalities who both share and disagree with your views.

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A big slobbery Amen! from me Roger.
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Sue & Von

That kind of vitriol is so misplaced that I am unsure whether to even dignify it with a response.

You are very out of line with your name calling. There is nothing mediocre or nefarious about this forum or the people who run it. Moreover, it is a diverse place that appeals to all sorts of people, including those who are unlike you & have traits you lack, i.e., a sense of humor and the ability to navigate a complex, freewheeling Web site.

It's one thing to suggest an improvement & even to keep nudging the powers that be. It's another thing to totally lose it over a minor issue, and you certainly are not going to get very far with postings that make you sound like crackpots.

I urge you to think very carefully about where all this anger is really coming from. It's a scary world, I know. Sometimes it seems as if legislating & compartmentalizing would solve our problems, and that anyone who is not with us is part of a conspiracy. Fear & anger, however, drain the life out of us. Please just participate, rather than trying to drain the life out of the forum because it doesn't have a cubbyhole for your little Excella.
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Geezzz,

Is this not a forum for Airstreams and Airstream owners. I don't get it S&V. If you want a specific site for Excella 500's try "www.Excella 500-1974.com and call it your own. Do the homework and the foot work for sponsors and go for it!
Wanting to have a site for every Airstream model and floorplan out there, would be a daunting task.
We are all Airstreams, don't we all share the same or similiar experiences?

Sure you have seen written," it is free." Yep, you only pay for electricity.(your own wall socket) no other hookups.

We participate in a forum for our SOB motorhome. Someone was unhappy about the categories, and they went out and created their own. Good for them, good for us.!
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Sue and Von,

I don't hear any of the '76 Excella owners wanting their own forum. I've looked at the '75 and '77 forums, and honestly I didn't see anything unique to those years posted on those forums. How many '74 Excelli are there that you need your own break-out room?
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