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Old 06-06-2008, 10:01 AM   #71
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Hey, think of this as one thing that is not being hit with inflation these days.

I'll explain it one more time. Before the system used a crazy algorithm to calculate how many karma points a member got based on the "influence" of the person giving the karma. The "influence" was based on the tenure of the person here on the forums, the amount of posts they had made and the amount of karma they themselves had at the time they were giving karma. It was really kludgy because a new member with one post could easily become more influential then a member who had been here for years and had 500 posts. The reason for this was that a very influential member could have given them that karma and transfered to them many karma points thus increasing their influence because your total karma points were part of the influence calculation. Confusing? YES!

The way the system was setup causes it to run wild after scores start to escalate and ultimately cause the system to be useless. I have seen newbies go from 0 to 25,000 karma points on other sites and this was the path we were headed down. So now each time you get karma you get 1 point. No karma was lost, everyone just got the 1 point for each karma you were given in the past.

This evens the playing field and makes the system more fair. It also allows us to use this metric for possible "bonuses" that might be given in the future to our best members. So 1 point per karma is the new system, it's very simple and easy to use.

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Old 06-06-2008, 10:45 AM   #72
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Hey, think of this as one thing that is not being hit with inflation these days.

I'll explain it one more time. Before the system used a crazy algorithm to calculate how many karma points a member got based on the "influence" of the person giving the karma. The "influence" was based on the tenure of the person here on the forums, the amount of posts they had made and the amount of karma they themselves had at the time they were giving karma. It was really kludgy because a new member with one post could easily become more influential then a member who had been here for years and had 500 posts. The reason for this was that a very influential member could have given them that karma and transfered to them many karma points thus increasing their influence because your total karma points were part of the influence calculation. Confusing? YES!

The way the system was setup causes it to run wild after scores start to escalate and ultimately cause the system to be useless. I have seen newbies go from 0 to 25,000 karma points on other sites and this was the path we were headed down. So now each time you get karma you get 1 point. No karma was lost, everyone just got the 1 point for each karma you were given in the past.

This evens the playing field and makes the system more fair. It also allows us to use this metric for possible "bonuses" that might be given in the future to our best members. So 1 point per karma is the new system, it's very simple and easy to use.
Yes indeed, I had some tremendous karma points because a handful of VERY well-established and influential posters including several mods had graciously given me just a little bit of karma.

I looked like the King Of The World even thouh I am very new around here. Don't get me wrong, it was a great ride while it lasted, I partied like a rock star and all, as long as I could. It was beautiful, man.

But the new system is far more equitable and fair. Thanks for the explanation, and folks will get used to it in time.


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Old 06-06-2008, 10:56 AM   #73
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I really like how easy it is to now do recon on members, just click on their name and whala! it's all there, I really enjoy looking at the pictures easily. Before you had to go thru the rig a ma ro thing, now one click, sweet. good job.
So seing as moosetags has not posted any pics lately I'm enjoying this thread, Thanks
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Old 06-06-2008, 03:22 PM   #74
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What's the difference between a "Soft Delete" and a "Hard Delete" regarding the visitor messages?

( Humorous answers are always appreciated but humorous AND informative answers score the highest points.)

I soft deleted most of my messages yesterday and now my site looks awful.
Should I have been harder on my friends?

Also, the first message I received from another member is apparently on page 2 of my messages but every time I click on the number "2" I get sent to the forums page which is still too big for my screen.

And is this the right place to request that the random photos at the top of the portal page come back?
I loved that feature and I know I wasn't the only one.

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Old 06-06-2008, 03:40 PM   #75
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What's the difference between a "Soft Delete" and a "Hard Delete" regarding the visitor messages?

( Humorous answers are always appreciated but humorous AND informative answers score the highest points.)

I soft deleted most of my messages yesterday and now my site looks awful.
Should I have been harder on my friends?
A soft delete leaves the results that you have now. The messages aren't gone forever - by checking the message box and selecting "Undelete message" from the drop-down, you can display the message again.

A hard delete ("Physically Remove") means the message is gone forever.

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Also, the first message I received from another member is apparently on page 2 of my messages but every time I click on the number "2" I get sent to the forums page which is still too big for my screen.

And is this the right place to request that the random photos at the top of the portal page come back?
I loved that feature and I know I wasn't the only one.

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The admins are still working out the bugs - thanks for reporting these issues!
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Old 06-06-2008, 04:09 PM   #76
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A soft delete leaves the results that you have now. The messages aren't gone forever - by checking the message box and selecting "Undelete message" from the drop-down, you can display the message again. A hard delete ("Physically Remove") means the message is gone forever.
I either no longer have that option (because it's too late perhaps) or I'm just blind. The only message box I can see is by the only visitor message I didn't delete.
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:10 PM   #77
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And is this the right place to request that the random photos at the top of the portal page come back?
I loved that feature and I know I wasn't the only one.
Thanks
May I also second this idea. I understand advertising is paying for that space but that feature cause members to LOOK at other members pictures. If a picture caught someones attention they were likely to look at a members other pictures.

With out some stimulus of this nature the pictures would be unknown to most.
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Old 06-06-2008, 10:56 PM   #78
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still unable to see new posts

I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but I still get a message that you all are upgrading software whenever I try to click on new posts or try to see todays posts in the quick links.

I miss not being able to just click and read... I would surely appreciate someone checking this out...

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Old 06-07-2008, 12:23 AM   #79
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lost karma, missing messages

I lost my karma

And, I keep trying to post to a reply and it doesn't post.

What the what?

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Old 06-08-2008, 08:38 PM   #81
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Search function?

Wow, the search function has gone screwy! I tried to search the DOT tire codes and ended up in the photo gallery twice. What's up?

Oops, Operator Error on my part. I posted in the Gallery section, twice at that.
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Old 06-08-2008, 11:22 PM   #82
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I lost my karma

And, I keep trying to post to a reply and it doesn't post.

What the what?

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Old 06-09-2008, 10:23 AM   #83
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Air Classifieds ad dog-ear wreaking havoc

Maybe it's my computer, or too many open tabs in Firefox, but the Air Classifieds dog-ear-sly-pop-up-ad-work-around is making me crazy. How can I turn it off?
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Old 06-09-2008, 03:05 PM   #84
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Maybe it's my computer, or too many open tabs in Firefox, but the Air Classifieds dog-ear-sly-pop-up-ad-work-around is making me crazy. How can I turn it off?
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Hi Anne,

It is on Andy’s list. See post #83 at New Software: Bugs Reports.
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