New Feature - Forums for WBCCI Units

[markdoane]

Rog,

I think your argument is well founded.

I came to the opposite conclusion, however. Anything that keeps the WBCCI unit discussions OFF the MAIN PORTAL is a plus. I don't want or need to read through their rally planning and potluck discussions. Like Terry, I don't need to see the sausage being made.

On the same hand, if it brings in new users, it will be a plus for the forum's revenue river.

[rebfa]

Originally Posted by markdoane

Rog,
I came to the opposite conclusion, however. Anything that keeps the WBCCI unit discussions OFF the MAIN PORTAL is a plus. I don't want or need to read through their rally planning and potluck discussions.

Wow! On the contrary, I actually enjoy reading the unit discussions on the main portal. The nice thing about thread titles, is that you can read the thread title BEFORE you open the thread so you don't have to read the posts you aren't interested in. Hence, any threads with the words "rally", "rendevous", "gathering", etc. could be an indicator for you to avoid the thread. Just my $.05.

[LI Pets]

I don't think they should be private, I may wish to see what other areas are doing rally wise etc.

Why can't there be subforums, rally info open to all, member only etc.

[myboyburt]

Originally Posted by dougjamie

So, did you ask? What was the answer?

The NEU now has it's own WBCCI Forum thanks to the folks at the Airstream Knowledge Sharing Forums.

Working on figuring it out right now.....

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by Rog0525

I have no interest in the WBCCI. I did not donate money to finance private forums which hold no interest for me. I see this as just another way to uneccesarily bulge the already overcrowded archives of information which should be of interest to all Airstream owners or wannabes. How long before we are asked to contribute to yet another server or non-Airstream forum?
If the WBCCI cannot be self-supporting, why should my donation to these forums be used to support them?
These forums are only free if you choose not to donate. How is it fair to use donated general funds to the advantage of a private organization?
IMHO, these forums should be in the general interest of all who have interest in investing money in an Airstream for personal use. If they choose to join a group which excludes other non-interested parties, they should be prepared to pay the cost of the exclusion.
I am in favor of keeping these forums of interest to all Airstreamers. I am not in favor of catering to private organizations or special interest groups.

So...you donated money, so the forum should be tailored to your specific interests??

airtreaming is a very broad topic. Everyone's interests are going to vary. There's lots of stuff on this forum in which I have little or no interest. In time, those interests might change. For example, there's lots of talk about new airstreams...there's talk about "boondocking", caravanning, etc...I have no interest in any of those things now. maybe someday. When I first got interested in airstreaming, I had no interest in the wbcci; now, it is at the center of my airstreaming experience. If you'd told me that 4 years ago, I'd have said, "you're crazy". While the wbcci may hold no interest for you now, you can't deny that it is a major "airstreaming" activity, for a great many.
The mods are always encouraging people to use descriptive titles in their new thread postings. I suggest that if you should see one that describes a conversation around or about the wbcci, you simply skip over it.

[Janet H]

And again... There will be no need to avoid the threads. Only members of the special access unit will see threads in that area.

Special access forums are intended for club biz e.g. agenda developement, long term planning, etc. These conversations would ordinarily not be posted on the main forum anyway and have often taken place via e-mail.

[balrgn]

Originally Posted by myboyburt

The NEU now has it's own WBCCI Forum thanks to the folks at the Airstream Knowledge Sharing Forums.

Working on figuring it out right now.....

Way to go!

I'm tempted to ask

IS IT DONE YET

But I won't

[Rog0525]

Originally Posted by chuck

So...you donated money, so the forum should be tailored to your specific interests??

That is rude. I did not ask for any custom tailoring or special privileges. I expressed concern about donating a chunk of the limited bandspace to a private organization. Considering the history of impaired access and sever changes due to overcrowding the bandspace, I believe it'a a legitimate concern.

[overlander63]

Originally Posted by Rog0525

That is rude. I did not ask for any custom tailoring or special privileges. I expressed concern about donating a chunk of the limited bandspace to a private organization. Considering the history of impaired access and sever changes due to overcrowding the bandspace, I believe it'a a legitimate concern.

Rog, if you step back from your post and re-read it, it can be taken the way Chuck took it. As far as the WBCCI forums, they will probably not be that active, and activity is what consumes bandwidth. AndyR is working to upgrade the servers again so the extra bandwidth that is here can be handled.

[Jim Clark]

Originally Posted by Lipets

I don't think they should be private, I may wish to see what other areas are doing rally wise etc.

Why can't there be subforums, rally info open to all, member only etc.

I don't believe the rally information will be kept private. Their members would do the planning of a rally by a unit with in their group as it is done now. Once the planning is complete it would be published, I don’t see any difference.

Jim

[Rog0525]

Posting an opinion to this thread can earn you negative karma feedback as I just discovered. Right or wrong, I stand by my post as being a candid expression of my feelings of the overall effect of this new private forum. There goes the new t-shirt which was promised 2 years ago. Easy come, easy go, right?

[Pahaska]

Originally Posted by Rog0525

Posting an opinion to this thread can earn you negative karma feedback as I just discovered.

Reread the karma popup box. It simply says "I agree" or "I disagree". Any member has the privelege of disagreeing with any particular post.

[SafeHarbor]

Right, Rog, and what the rest of the forum doesn't know can't hurt them.

Lamar

[Rog0525]

Originally Posted by Pahaska

Reread the karma popup box. It simply says "I agree" or "I disagree". Any member has the privelege of disagreeing with any particular post.

Pahaska, I respect you tremendously as a valuable member of these forums. Some of your input has been very helpful to me. What I am disagreeing with is the ability of any member to harm the reputation of another simply because of a disagreement on facts or information intended in a constructive fashion.
Maybe I'm just too sensitive but I think there are better ways to resolve differences of opinion than posting negative karma.

Respectfully,
Roger

[wheel interested]

I don't think anyone sees our karma. It is invisible aura around our head (and heart.) Know what you mean Roger, the first time I received it I felt really bad.

[66Overlander]

Originally Posted by Rog0525

Pahaska, I respect you tremendously as a valuable member of these forums. Some of your input has been very helpful to me. What I am disagreeing with is the ability of any member to harm the reputation of another simply because of a disagreement on facts or information intended in a constructive fashion.
Maybe I'm just too sensitive but I think there are better ways to resolve differences of opinion than posting negative karma.

Respectfully,
Roger

I think negative Karma should be eliminated rather than the WBCCI private forums. I am sorry I contributed to a Forum that still allows Negative Karma. There I've said it.

In actuality, I came to this conclusion a long time ago when I received Negative Karma and the reason provided by the giver had nothing to do with the content of my post. I tried to get it removed, which I was told was not possible. My opinion then and now is that if you can't say something in public (i.e. you'd get censored if you put it in a reply), you shouldn't be able to put it in Negative Karma that only the recipient can see. I have never given it, and never will, but some folks test that resolve from time to time. I just plain see Negative Karma as "not playing nice". The ability to give it should be removed from the forums entirely. And as an aside, that Negative Karma I recieved has created a rift between the giver and myself that is still there many months later. The giver is probably a great guy most of the time, but I have not communicated with him since. The opportunity for a freindship was destroyed by Negative Karma.

[yukionna]

Originally Posted by 66Overlander

...And as an aside, that Negative Karma I recieved has created a rift between the giver and myself that is still there many months later. The giver is probably a great guy most of the time, but I have not communicated with him since. The opportunity for a freindship was destroyed by Negative Karma...

I understand what you are saying. There have been times here and there over the years on this forum where my reaction to a post was to give out negative karma but I didn't and I still won't. I don't understand the purpose of it (i.e., disagreeing in private?) and fear it would create an unnecessary rift between my self and the recipient. I prefer to "respectively" disagree in public as I feel that the negative karma option is not a viable way to do that. If there is no way I can "respectively" disagree, then I keep my mouth shut.

IMHO, life is too short for giving or receiving negative karma.

I make a motion that everyone gives Roger a shot of good karma! If you accept my motion, just give him the karma instead of raising your hand!

[markdoane]

Keep the negative karma. The times I've received negative karma, it was usually an idiot who didn't understand the issue, or an irrational bully.

I like knowing who they are, and they reveal themselves with their petty little jabs.

Let it roll.

Oddball: Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
Moriarty: Crap!

[jcanavera]

Originally Posted by InsideOut

ASForum staff is not actively recruiting Units to sign-up. No email/mailing has been sent out to the WBCCI Presidents to encourage involvement, like Steph said, it's slow. If Forum members that ARE involved in WBCCI want to initiate a Unit Forum, they are welcome too. As more & more do...others will join, the "me too" syndrome.


Shari

I recruited our local pres for the Greater St. Louis Unit 058 last week. He talked about it at the state rally with the local officers who were cool to the idea. I did get an email from him yesterday and he did request that we set a site up. He thinks the folks will warm up to it once they get past the hurdles of registering with the forums (I assume you need to be a member).

Jack

[InsideOut]

Originally Posted by jcanavera

I recruited our local pres for the Greater St. Louis Unit 058 last week. He talked about it at the state rally with the local officers who were cool to the idea.

That's fine, I'm not saying nobody has individually talked to people about joining in, obviously that has occured for there to be a few set-up...there's just not been a formal recruiting effort to date.

Shari