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Old 09-20-2007, 10:00 AM   #15
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Currently, our forum is set to log a member off after 1 hour

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Currently, our forum is set to log a member off after 1 hour (in the absence of any activty).

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Janet,

Thank you very much for confirming my hypothesis.

Now I have to ask why so short a time period? One hour is not a very long time. And, in my experience, I am finding that the time is actually fewer minutes than 60. While I have not done an actual recording of the time involved I can do so; I'd rather not though.

But, I will plead for a longer period of time. Logging people off who just sit and do nothing for extreme periods of time makes perfect sense if the system is constrained by the number of people who can be logged in at a given time.

The only time I have seen a period of time as short as 1 hour used for something like this was on a system that was so severely overloaded with no chance of being upgraded/modified for months to come. It was necessary for people to have access to the application to record their work hours in order to get paid; and it really was not necessary to be logged in for a significant amount of time in order to make the necessary entries.

For a system like a forum 1 hour seems to me to be a really short period of time. I find that it is too short for me to be able to use the system effectively, especially when I am working on a response to a post or creating a new post. I have read other forum members complaints about this being a real problem for them as well.

So, how about increasing the time period to something like 4 hours? I think this would give folks who are working with pictures for inclusion in their posts ample opportunity to "ger 'er done" without being forced to create their post in other software and then copy and paste it only to find that the pictures did not come along.

Any rate, you get the idea.

On the other hand, perhaps there is something that I do not know (a very real possiblity) as to the reason for the selection of such a short time period of 1 hour inactivity for the logout. Perhaps the software and/or the system it is running on is not capable of supporting a significant number of users being logged in. If that is the case it seems like it is time to upgreade; especially given that this forum is rapidly becomming THE definitive forum for all things Airstream - wonderful that, really.

Thanks again for responding to my plea and restoring my saniity - it's nice to know that I am not truely "looseing it".

Jim
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Old 09-20-2007, 01:40 PM   #16
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For a system like a forum 1 hour seems to me to be a really short period of time. I find that it is too short for me to be able to use the system effectively, especially when I am working on a response to a post or creating a new post. I have read other forum members complaints about this being a real problem for them as well.
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Are you joking or do you have some limitation that precludes you from striking a key or using your mouse in less than an hour?

Unless you go to dinner I can't see how you could sit stareing at the screen without activity for an hour.
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I'm always logged on.....
I use three different computers at three different locations and I never have to sign in. The top right hand corner always says "Welcome, millvalleyca"
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Old 09-20-2007, 01:56 PM   #18
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i've been logged on since i joined. i even have not had to log on after eating dinner.
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:21 PM   #19
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Are you joking or do you have some limitation that precludes you from striking a key or using your mouse in less than an hour?

Unless you go to dinner I can't see how you could sit stareing at the screen without activity for an hour.
Striking a key has no impact. This is why it is a problem for people who are working on posts that take a long time.

As for the time I spend "stareing at the screen without activity for an hour" I don't find that unusual at all. I can only speak for myself but I tend to multitask and as a result, I do more than stare at the screen when in front of the computer. It's not like I am devoted to this forum when I am logged in. I may be on the phone for several minutes, responding to email or doing a myraid of other things related to the people who come in and ask questions.

I find it a pain to be in the middle of a response or composing a post for this forum only to find that it is gone because I have been automagically logged off.

Increasing the time factor for the automatic logout process is a trivail activity and it will benefit all who use this forum.

For those who use the "Remember Me" process and never delete cookies from their computer and, as a result, do not perceive this problem, that is fine. As for me, after spending my career in the IT industry I prefer more security and NEVER use such features and never keep cookies in my browser between sessions. When my browser closes all cookies are removed.

Any rate, the fix is simple and not something that causes problems to the forum - the fix only helps all who use the forum.

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Jim, I'm afraid it must be something in your local setup. I have never been logged out on the two computers I use. I have this forum listed in my favorites and each time I select it, I'm on and I stay on indefinitely.
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If a user has their security profiles set to delete cookies after log out, then indeed, it would be required to log in again. This is a personal choice and each member must decide what works best for their application.

To date, we have kept this limit at 1 hour for a several reasons including to keep the "who's on line" list at the bottom of the portal page fairly accurate and to reduce server load just a bit.
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If a user has their security profiles set to delete cookies after log out, then indeed, it would be required to log in again. This is a personal choice and each member must decide what works best for their application.

To date, we have kept this limit at 1 hour for a several reasons including to keep the "who's on line" list at the bottom of the portal page fairly accurate and to reduce server load just a bit.
Hi Janet,

Thanks for responding.

You will need to explain to me how forcing me off the system when I just log back in does anything to contribute to "reduce server load just a bit".

Well, OK it does reduce it for the minutes that I am off and do not log back in. But, all things being equal, that is a minimal amount of time. And my continually having to log back into the system puts more load on it than if I was just left on; not to mention the overhead of logging me off constantly.

As to the Who's Online List being a driving factor for the determination of this time frame I must say that I find that a reather unusual way to administrer something. Seems like setting the time frame so that it is something that allows people to work on their posts would be something that is a more realistic determinant.

I am pleading for the one hour time increment to be upped to something more realistic, like 4 hours.

For those who continue to post to this thread and do not understand why this is happening I offer the following paragraphs.

The problem is related to cookies that the forum software puts on your computer system, within your browser software. The manufacturer of your browser, the operating system on your computer or type of network you use (dial up, LAN, DSL, etc.) is of no relevance. It is the same for all.

Some of us prefer not to not have our user names and passwords compromised by software that steals cookies. As a result, we do not use the "Remember Me" cookie process and are reduced to having to put up with this irritating behavior.

When you click on "Remember Me" a cookie is placed into the software of your browser that includes your username and password for this web site. This is how you are "automagically" logged onto the system; and continually logged in when you have exceeded the one hour logout time. The same thing is happening to you but you do not "see" it.

Any/all help greatly appreciated...

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