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07-14-2009, 04:23 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1972 21' Globetrotter
Lexington
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 6
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First-Timers . . . help
We are picking up our new baby ('72 Globetrotter) on Friday. Neither of us have ever really Rv'd or towed before. We are real newbies. What is the number one thing to remember about towing? We are hopeful that campers in our first RV park will help us with the first night there.
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07-14-2009, 04:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Beginner's advice
- check everything three times before you leave
- go slow
- turn wide
- use your signals
- avoid heavy traffic
- turn off your radio, your cell phone and drive with the windows down listening for bad sounds.
- if people are waving at you, look closely at their faces - and STOP if they look panicky. Your antenna is probably up, or your steps are down, or there are sparks flying from the stabilizer jacks you forgot to retract... or worse.
Seriously - you've already done the first thing right - by being aware that there are pitfalls. You've also asked for help, and you might get it before you pull out of your driveway. I'm sure there are members in Lexington who will read this, send you a PM and even come out and give you a driveway safety check and review. If not, try a second post - just title it "Lexington Kentucky Airstreamers?
You are welcome here.
Paula
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07-14-2009, 04:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Owings Mills
, MD
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,125
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Check behind you. If you are towing and don't see a trailer behind you, there is probably a problem.
Seriously, far more mistakes are made by experienced people who get careless than by new people who are on "pins and needles" about towing.
As for advice, you'll probably end up with more than you can use.
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07-14-2009, 04:42 PM
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Rivet Master
1968 24' Tradewind
Oxford,
, Mississippi
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,564
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Congratulation on your new baby. Wow, there is a long list of VERY important things to consider before towing. All have been enumerated many times here on the forums. How far will you be towing, what is your tow vehicle, do you have adequate mirrors, tires, wheel bearing, brakes controler,lights, trailer brakes, 7 pin connector, and on and on. All are important and it is hard to say which is most important. Give a few more specifics about your tow and you will get plenty of advise here. Have fun.
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07-14-2009, 05:06 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1949 18' Trailwind
1963 19' Globetrotter
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 151
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the number one thing that i remember everytime I tow our airstream or any trailer for that matter, is that you are towing a trailer. simple, huh?
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07-14-2009, 06:29 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1972 21' Globetrotter
Lexington
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 6
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Thanks to everyone . . . we are towing with a 2009 Jeep Cherokee . . . with new tow package and Rees stabilizer/equalizer bars . . . and brake control . . . transmission cooler . . . I'm sure I am forgetting something.
I love the "look behind you" and "pay attention to passerbys" . . . very good advice!
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07-14-2009, 06:47 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 30' Classic
Burlington
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,743
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Well, we bought our first Airstream last Fall. Our situation is a bit different from yours, we only bought it to use mainly for one-two months each year to escape the Canadian winters, and perhaps a couple of short summer trips yearly.
I wanted to avoid an older (vintage) unit as I hoped to have minimum maintenance - our last trailer was a 27 foot 1993 Award travel trailer and we had more than enough niggling problems witb appliances that acted up etc. - as well as rainwater leaks! It had reached the point where we needed to replace all the major appliances.
I was hoping to stay with the same length as I found it an ideal compromise. OK for longer stays and yet short enough to get ito pretty much all State/Provincial parks.
We wound up with a 2005 30' Classic Airstream and so far it has been just fine for us, although I have read on this forum that newer units experience a lot more quality issues than older Airstreams. Maybe we have been lucky so far!
We are not that interested in full-timing, but if we were, I couldn't imagine doing it in anything smaller than our Classic 30, which is actually 31' bumper to ball.
We did wind up buying a Hensley hitch and a diesel 3/4t truck to make the towing experience as enjoyable as possible and after a trip to California last winter, I don't regret those decision one bit!
Good luck in your quest!
Brian
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2005 Classic 30'
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07-14-2009, 06:47 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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The 1st thing I noticed was that there was this spaceship tailgating me. It took a while to get used to that. Then leaving the dealer I managed to not take out his gate, then down the street through a tight turn I didn't run over the curb or crush a little old lady in her 20 year old car, and haven't hit anything yet. For a while I felt like I spend more time looking in the side mirrors making sure the trailer was in the lane than looking out the windshield, so I may have run over a few people, but so far, no sirens have followed me. After a while you'll know where the trailer is without looking constantly in the mirrors.
The most important thing to remember—to be attentive. More attention is required for towing than you are used to. Notice how truckers take wide turns and are not shy about taking more than one lane to turn. The trailer for an 18 wheeler is twice as long as your Globetrotter, so the turns won't be as wide, but the idea is the same. Watch for people trying to pass you because a lot of people hate to be behind RV's. I hope you have tow mirrors with a bottom mirror that shows you what's alongside you because some drivers will do really stupid things. Take it easy, it will all come with time.
Backing—hold the wheel at the bottom. If you want the trailer to go left, turn the wheel left; opposite for right. Take it slow, get used to it, experiment somewhere with a lot of space. Soft and hard turns are very different and learning how to straighten it out just takes trying it. Practice helps a lot. Don't be afraid to get out and look to see what's happening. Even experienced professional drivers get out sometimes because it the best way to see what's going on back there. When you go to a campground and people are watching you, they had a first time too. Ignore them. Sometimes they want to help; you'll have to judge whether they are full of it or not.
Enjoy your new baby. It's overwhelming for a while, but you will be GirlzAtPlay before long.
Gene
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07-14-2009, 10:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 19' Safari SE
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,627
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You'll be fine...just take it easy and check everything twice...and yes, folks in the camp ground will be more than willing to help you survive your first trip! don't be too hard on yourself if you forget something...we've all done it.
Have fun and travel safe...
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07-16-2009, 03:45 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1972 21' Globetrotter
Lexington
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 6
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when reserving rv sites, how do we know what amps we need? 30 or 50?
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07-16-2009, 04:51 PM
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Iwannagocamping
1979 31' Sovereign
Rineyville
, Kentucky
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 262
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I am slightly guessing here, but a '72 should be a 30amp service. The end of your cord should look like this one...
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07-16-2009, 05:08 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 16' Safari
Destrehan
, Louisiana
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 395
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Now that you've got the trailer home it's time to check a few things. Re-pack the wheel bearings and check the tires. With any luck you've got the owners manual and that will help a lot. Try backing the trailer. It will take two to do this. One has to drive and the other has to work as the spotter. It takes a little practice.
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07-16-2009, 08:43 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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If it doesn't have an owner's manual, check the Airstream website for information on the trailer. Some older manuals are available.
I sometimes back without a spotter but that's because I know my land. It's always easier with a spotter. Walkie-talkies can make it a lot easier, because you can't always see the spotter. Best to practice where there are no obstacles so you can get a sense of what backing is about.
There are threads about wheel bearings and brakes. It's not as hard as it sounds and there are 2 benefits to doing it yourself—you can be sure you got it right, and you save a lot of money.
Gene
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07-17-2009, 08:21 AM
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Tramp Streamer
Commercial Member
1995 28' Excella
Artist
, at Large
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,002
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What, that thing again!
Hi and welcome G@P!
What a wonderful adventure.
Advice, at toll plazas claim ignorance about the silver thing behind you and reply that it has been following you around since you left home
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07-17-2009, 08:53 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1966 30' Sovereign
Bethany
, Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 136
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Welcome to the forums. I was down in KY last week camping. I learned one thing about Kentucky is that they don't have very wide roads and not many are straight and/or level. So, you might practice towing it by taking it out where there are some hills but not alot of traffic to get the handle on how to and when to down shift your Jeep, when you are going up and down hills. It might take a little getting used to regarding the shifting. And, I wouldn't use the cruise control on hills or really ever when you are towing your AS. That's more of an opinion(the 'ever' part), but many on this website share it.
Good luck and congrats on your purchase.
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1966 Sovereign International
2003 Black Chevy Silverado w/q-steer
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07-18-2009, 01:33 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1972 21' Globetrotter
Lexington
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 6
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great news - we made it home :-) and the towing was just fine . . . even in the mountains of Virginia and West Virginia !!!!
We took great notes of how to unhook the hitch and weight distribution, etc. . . . however, we couldn't get the "hood" to come off the ball . . . .
So, our neighbors in our exclusive neighborhood will be thrilled to see our beautiful silver baby in front of our house until Monday when the RV dealership opens :-)
We are IN LOVE with our airstream and can't wait to redecorate. She is in great shape but we are dying to have her mirror polished.
Thanks again for all of your advice . . . we thought of it often.
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07-19-2009, 10:07 AM
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Iwannagocamping
1979 31' Sovereign
Rineyville
, Kentucky
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 262
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By getting the hood off.. do you mean actually unhooking from the trailer? If so, chock the wheels of the trailer so it cant move, lift the locking lever and lock it up, crank the front of the trailer up with the stand, ball "should" release from hitch.. if it does not, or if you can't get the lock lever to come up and lock, put your truck in neutral, or move it (the truck) slightly front to back to release the tension. Go talk to anyone in your neighborhood with a TT, they have most undoubtedly run into this before, and almost every one will want to help you and see your baby.. it's an AS thing benefit.
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2004 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer
2 Golden Retrievers
Air # 36788
TAC# 3179
WBCCI # 1265
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07-19-2009, 10:22 AM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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If you have a weight distributing hitch, the bars or whatever creates the weight distributing/sway control has to be removed first or there will be too much tension and removing the tongue from the ball would be just about impossible. I don't know about other WD hitches, but the Equalizer has to be removed first or I don't think it could be removed.
The only other thing I can think of, is that the locking lever is jammed. On ours the hitch head (the thing with the ball on it) has to be lowered until it is almost as far down as it goes (it rotates downward) and only then can the lever be opened (lifted upward), and then using the tongue jack, raised the tongue off the ball. Once tension is relieved, the lever has to be pushed forward before it can be lifted. If the lever is jammed, however, start with WD 40. If that doesn't work, then get a flashlight, a screwdriver and something comfy to lay on while looking up and trying to figure out what is wrong. Probing around with the screwdriver while trying to unlock the lever may result is a good outcome. Make sure the jack is stable so the tongue doesn't fall on you.
The whole process of unhitching or hitching means raising and lowering the tongue several times to accommodate the various things that have to be done. Barb and I have done this many times, but we still have to think through it because of all the raising and lowering.
Gene
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07-19-2009, 04:04 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Oak View
, California
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,063
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Really, really keep an eye in your mirrors for the other idiots on the road...
On my first trip ever on the way back to California from my trip to Montana last year, alone with my two Labs, I was in Salt Lake City, right after making my turn onto the onramp for the freeway doing about 10 MPH since I had just come up a big hill to get there, this guy in a truck came flying down the onramp at the rear of me (he had been coming up the hill from the other direction and the two lanes of the onramp merge into one where I am already merging, decides to pass me and get on the freeway first.
Wham goes my left front tow mirror and smash goes the whole left side front fender as he bounces off of me with his whole right side fender. We pull over, a friend of his following him in another truck pulls over and this guy jumps out saying he saw the whole thing and it was MY fault. The highway patrol shows up, walks right past me, is terribly rude and tells me to go sit in my car while he goes off to have a long chat and laugh with the guys in front. Finally comes back, shakes his head and says my story doesn't match, the other guy has an "objective witness," makes me sit in my car in 100 degree heat for over an hour with my dogs, and at last lets us go. Guess what? The insurance adjuster takes the side of the "Good ole boys" story via the HP report and I get the blame for the accident....
The only good news is that he didn't hit the trailer.
Be careful, be safe!
Carol
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07-19-2009, 06:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 21' Globetrotter
Currently Looking...
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Arvada
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,530
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I have a 71 GT that is still undergoing it's rebirth
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f416...nte-26902.html
Here's a shot at Taylor Park Colorado
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