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Old 04-05-2007, 03:33 PM   #15
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ok i wanted to put this here but deferred...

to a better place

http://www.airforums.com/forum...66-post37.html


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Old 04-05-2007, 03:36 PM   #16
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:52 PM   #17
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Sorry for the delay in getting back to you all. We are going to go ahead and change domain names. That being said, we need to be extra careful that we don't even come close to violating Airstream, Inc's trademarks with our new tagline/logo.

It is my understanding that it is the use of the word Airstream in conjunction with a trailer, motorhome or other other camping stuff that will cause a violation. Maybe one of our sleuth members can dig up the filing with the Trademark office and post a link here for review.

If I am correct, then it would be best for us to avoid the use of the word Airstream in our tagline. We can still use an Airstream in our logo but only if we do not have the word Airstream in our tagline (or domain name).

I think we can use the word Airstream in our tagline but would have to be very precise in the way we design our logo. I think it's wisest to remove the word Airstream from the tagline all together just to make sure we err on the side of caution.

(Isn't it ironic that in the last year they were trying to add the Airstream name to the WBCCI and at the same time pushed us away from using it in our name!?!)

From my understanding as it is now, we can have in our logo:
- Our domain name (AIRForums.com), tagline (without the word Airstream) and an image of an Airstream in the logo.
- Our domain name (AIRForums.com), tagline with the word Airstream in the tagline, and nothing related to camping, trailers, outdoors, motorhomes in our logo.

If it were up to me, i would choose a tagline without the word Airstream and an image that includes some shiny silver with rivets (side of an airplane of course)
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:59 PM   #18
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I have send the following message to my contact at Airstream. I hope they will at least chime in and give us some guidance on how to proceed with all this.
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We are moving forward with our tagline contest and creating a new logo. In accordance with our current licensing agreement I wanted to ask you what criteria we need to follow to make sure this logo does not violate Airstream, Inc's trademarks.

It is my understanding that the use of the word Airstream in conjunction with graphics containing a trailer, motorhome or other other camping related item that will cause a violation. Could you provide me with some guidance on how to proceed so we can rest assured that Airstream, Inc will not consider our logo or tagline a violation of your trademarks?

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From my understanding as it is now, we can have in our logo:
- Our domain name (AIRForums.com), tagline (without the word Airstream) and an image of an Airstream in the logo.
How about.....
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man that's good rog!

now add a few of the better tag lines (mine are a/s free)

we're set...

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Nice work Rog - I like that one too.
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4 out of 5 ....

.... of my entries are A**stream free... It is a shame that Thor is so very touchy regarding the very use of the A**stream name. Perhaps they need to concentrate more on Quality of construction and be a little less anal that their name might be infringed on by a site domain name. After all we only want to use their name for recognition. So the site uses it to invite owners of these trailers and Moho's to share information on their products and how best to maintain them! Maybe we should call this site: A**streamForums.com as this would not hurt their feelings and would leave the door open for individual interpretation as to the subject matter included on the site. This is really petty of them in my humble opinion and really shows me they don't want to recognize the very people that have helped to build on and improve their image to non-A**stream users. Sorry to say that they won't even care about this and only are concerned in their opinion and no one elses!
Well that's my two cents worth. Thanks for reading. Happy Trails, Ed
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:03 PM   #24
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Now if Rog's had the trailer sitting beside a stream we'd probably still be legit.

I can see all kinds of fun with T-shirts etc. that have statements like

Air you serious about RV'ing
or just another SOB

I know, very sick, but I just couldn't help myself. It is Easter after all.....

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Thor has every right and reason to be protective of Airstream’s intellectual property rights. We see constant abuse of the Airstream trade name on eBay. If Thor doesn’t actively pursue domain name violations, we will see more of the type of apparent scamming which was pointed out in this thread:
http://www.airforums.com/forum...all-31318.html

From what I understand, the change of domain name isn’t being forced on Andy. I think what we’re seeing is an abundance of legal caution by both Andy and the legal team at Thor. Why not just keep things simple for both parties by eliminating the Airstream name from both the logo and the tagline?
Here’s my final submission. I think this should be clear to anyone looking for information on Airstreams without violating any copyrights or trademarks. The little trailer image is mine. It’s a mini sketch of my former ’71 Caravel. Andy is welcome to it if he wants it or he is welcome to substitute a more generic image.
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I like this one Rog. It says it all, and doesn't encroach on anyone's need to keep their trademark protected.

And I agree with what Airstream needs to do. GM, Ford, Chrysler and most others have been decisive and spread a wide net to keep as much of their trademark as possible under their control and it makes good sense.

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