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Old 04-05-2007, 11:41 PM   #15
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Now everyone finally knows why airstreamforums.com was left off the AIR stickers!
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:51 PM   #16
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Calling Jackson Center

Tomorrow morning I'm calling Jackson Center. I planned to have work done on the Airstream during Summer Solstice, so I'll get that scheduled, then I'll speak to their marketing dept and tell them that without this forum I'd never have bought TWO, count 'em, TWO Airstreams in the past two years.

I'll also write a polite letter that starts "Want me to buy a third Airstream? Want me to recommend Airstreams to camping buddies?" I'll be nice but polite about my various concerns with the brand including the chilling effect on my pocket book of:
  • forcing SOB moho's into WBCCI
  • making this forum change it's name
  • galvanized frame/cheap chipboard floors
  • no shocks on new Airstream axles
  • shouldn't a truly premium brand like Airstream be willing and ABLE to offer owners a 5 year factory warranty?
  • wouldn't a 5 year factory warranty (or even 3 or 4 year) be a huge incentive for people who are reluctant to pony up the bucks for a new one?
  • marketing via website... dudes you aren't pushing customers to dealers with that two year old webiste that's only recently started to have pictures of the 25' FB models. And why not show us all of the options for upholstery color and fabrics on the website? Fergodsake if you can't update it, pay Colonial Airstream to do it.
Heresy or Reality?

You know, I wouldn't necessarily dislike the idea of rebranding a higher grade of SOB moho, but I'd expect it to have an Airstream look and feel, and to be highly durable. The prototype in the "Wunderlust" book is cool looking. Couldn't Thor find one of their other companies to build and pop THAT body on a truck frame?

Let's be realistic. In many ways the Argosy steel end segment is actually better than the Airstream segments.... harder to dent, easier and much cheaper to repair, missing four seams that are four potential leak points... Technology HAS changed in the last 75 years and maybe just maybe Airstream SHOULD (heresy I know) get a riveting robot... I found 3 rivets on the exterior of mine that had clearly been drilled just a bit off, then vulkemed around. Do a rivet by rivet inspection of ANY Airstream and you'll find a couple too... If the rivet holes were drilled by machine, there'd be a chance that you could put a salvaged front or rear onto a damaged Airstream without having two sets of misaligned rivet holes as would happen now.

This will be my second paragraph of the letter to Airstream. Like it?

I'm majority stockholder in my company, Answer Center, and we are one of the highest priced telephone answering services in this part of the USA. 40% of our new customers for the past three years have come from referrals not paid advertising... and our sales figures are going UP in an industry that has been increasingly challenged by voice mail and cell phones for the past 25 years. How can that be? Because we've not only listened to our customers but actually tried to anticipate their needs and put money IN their pockets over the short and long term. Our under the radar motto is "We give GOOD phone" - while the official ones are "It all begins with a phone call" and "Image isn't everything, but it is the FIRST thing". Both simply point out that most businesses meet 90% to 100% of their new customers via a caller initiated phone call. At Answer Center we live and die by repeat business and customer referral... how is it different for Thor? I own a Lexus... 30 years ago I would have bought a Cadillac. Cadillac kept building high priced crap cars that spent half their lives up on the rack being fixed. Finally even their most loyal customers just couldn't take it any more. God help Thor when Toyota decides to go into the RV business. If Thor isn't worried about that possibility, please remember Jackson Center is about 25 miles from a factory where Toyota makes GENERATORS. Do you think Generac or Allison feel their market share slipping?

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Old 04-07-2007, 07:36 AM   #17
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I am confused, what will the new domain name be?
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In our ongoing efforts to provide our members with the best Airstream Knowledge Sharing Forums in the world, we will be changing our URL from AirstreamForums.com to AIRForums.com effective April 11, 2007.
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:19 AM   #18
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I could be wrong but doesn't Airstream own this forum?
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:22 AM   #19
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I could be wrong but doesn't Airstream own this forum?
No...just the domain name. Airstream Corp had it's own forum for a bit and it failed.

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Old 04-07-2007, 08:31 AM   #20
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I think it is a good move and can't see why for any reason this would impact google rankings for very long. I did a domain name change and after about 2 months it was fully picked up. It's the content, not the name. And the best AS content is right here!
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Old 04-07-2007, 09:36 AM   #21
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I could be wrong but doesn't Airstream own this forum?
This forum is owned by one guy, Andy R, who started it becasue he needed to fix his Airstream. I can't think of a better recommendation for a forum. That the forum just happens to be one of the best online promoters of Airstream Trailers, given the domain name squabble, is ironic. One of the things that makes this forum so great is the willingness of the members to share their experience and knowledge. That wealth of knowledge will help the rest of us keep our highly cool trailers on the road and most likely, encourage new trailer sales as well.
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Old 04-07-2007, 10:52 AM   #22
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Thanks for all the support and kind words. Nothing should change around here other then a couple of months of slow down in new member registrations. Our licensing agreement with Airstream, Inc will remain in place and we will continue to follow all the terms set forth in that agreement.

So don't worry too much about this name change. All the wonderful people that make up our community (you all) are staying the same, so a rose is a rose by any other name!

It's the people and information that make us special, not our domain name!
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Old 04-07-2007, 10:54 AM   #23
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That's great Andy!
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Old 04-10-2007, 08:36 PM   #24
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I just wanted to remind you that the switch is going to happen tomorrow.
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Old 04-10-2007, 08:39 PM   #25
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Thanks Andy. I'll change my book marks tommorrow.
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Old 04-10-2007, 08:46 PM   #26
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For those of us who are not computer smart, do we need to do anything, or will be automatically directed to the new site??
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Old 04-10-2007, 09:26 PM   #27
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You will be redirected.

If you are a windows user, once there, you can click on "favorites" at the top of your screen and then "add to favorites".

Then next time you want to visit, open Explorer and select AIRForums.com from the list and click.
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No...just the domain name. Airstream Corp had it's own forum for a bit and it failed.

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I was on the Airstream.com website tonight. There is an "Airstreamer" tab that talks about an email service and "Airstreamer Forums". That's new, right? They said they were updating their site..... hmmmmmm
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