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Old 12-05-2004, 06:29 PM   #57
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Gary,

What is a smart charger and what is the title of your post where you've mentioned it before...I think it's a great idea.
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Old 12-07-2004, 08:44 PM   #58
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Astrodokk, I think the Smart Charger is an add on to the Intellipower. Try looking that up.

I tried the ironing method and indeed it softens up the vinyl enough to peel it off the floor - sloooowly. Unfortunately I've found soft spots by the front, door, and under the fridge. I've also found the POs repairs by the door.

I told my husband this is going to be more extensive than I thought to begin with, and he just gave me that look. I figured it would be easier now if he started getting used to the idea.
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Old 12-07-2004, 09:36 PM   #59
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If you have that much softness, you may want to consider replacing the whole floor

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Old 12-07-2004, 10:26 PM   #60
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So it's the Full Monty?
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Old 12-07-2004, 11:42 PM   #61
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You know, I'm not as scared of the idea of doing the full monty to it as I was, especially having seen Malcolm's project. My 14ft interior seems like it would be a cakewalk compared to his 31ft trailer!

I'm working my way towards the back and seeing what I find. The fridge is out now, I'm taking the kitchen cabinet out next, and then probably the closets and we'll see how the bathroom looks. I know at least on the last trip the black tank filled up and there was some brown water on the closet floor, which I suspect means a gasket is bad somewhere between the toilet and the tank - yuk! So the toilet needs to come out anyway.

I'm hopefully going to get the bellytank open this weekend (if the rain stops for a day) and see if there's any rot under the bath. If there is, then the whole thing is coming out and a new floor is going in end to end. No foolin' around. I don't want to do this job more than once. And a nice side effect would be getting rid of that 'old trailer smell'.

I'm thinking any floor replacement I do will be with the polyboard like Malcolm is using. He's already done much of the homework, and I was very impressed with the part he had in when I went to visit.
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Good Morning Stephanie,


It's fun isn't it? A combination of demolition, archeology and renovation. Very satisfying, even though it NEVER goes the way we think it will.

My first trailer was a 1966 Caravel. I had that thing apart several times, I even took all the interior skins out to do rib work. What a nice little trailer. I sold it to a movie company in a moment of weakness. I later found out they CUT IT IN HALF to make an interior set. Disturbing behavior from Hollywood!

I now own a 1963 Globetrotter and my saga is much like yours: One day when I was gloating over having bought a pristine, untouched, origional owner trailer, I decided to look under the cabinet in the bathroom.....

As others have said, it must have been a subconscious desire for the "full monty." You know the rest...

One thing I did when I had the floor out was to strip and polish the lower wall in the bathroom- from the floor up to the first rivet line. Maybe two and a half feet measured vertically. It really makes the bathroom look cleaner, and was easy to do standing on the ground with everything out. I forgot to take pictures of that when I was making my album. I'll add them later so you can see what I'm talking about.

This is also a great time to give some serious thought to wiring. Real easy now to snake all those cables for the complicated multi battery/solar system you WILL install later!

Best of luck to you.
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Old 12-08-2004, 10:50 AM   #63
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Having done a full floor replacement - its not that bad - a bit time consuming, but not that hard. Then while you have the frame exposed, you can give it a nice coat of paint - and bing a bang a boom your good for another 30-40 years. I'm not a beliver in doing the small patch thing - just as easy to do the whole thing. In my 58 the floor was not rotted, but the bolts had loosened/pulled through - everything is nice and tight now.

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Old 12-08-2004, 11:29 AM   #64
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A "trailer raising!"

I sense an "upcoming" forum event! Seriously - Steph, are you planning on doing a shell off, or replace what you can with it on? Vancouver WA can't be that far from us, if you need muscle, let us know.....I'll send my wife!

Actually, she'll be out of commission after her surgury for awhile, but I am willing to help out.
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The Caravel should be a good training ground for that overlander you buy next. I also have an 68. There is a unique feeling to them for those of us who were tent campers. Replacing the aluminum wire with copper would be a good idea if you take the lower panels off to do the floor. Not much wire in a Caravel. Getting the stuff out from under the floor will change how it smells for sure.
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Thanks all, for the words of encouragement (and a good laugh from Marc) I'll be calling when the heavy lifting comes!

Courtney, the thought of someone cutting a Caravel in half breaks my heart! Funny the hubby and I were just talking about how Hollywood buys and destroys cars that I save up for years to buy. I think the Thelma and Louise Square-bird got me started. But cutting up a Caravel? Argh!

I think I can do the replacement with the body in place, just braced and supported. I'm hoping it's something I could do in pieces. Take out the wood in front, fix and paint the frame, put new floor in, move to the next piece back, and repeat. It's a real patchwork under there right now.

Hey, no rain today, I'd better get back to it!
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Stephanie,

I would be happy to help you strategize on a Polyboard floor replacement. I do think you can do it a few steps at a time if you want to. It is also not that bad to take the whole floor out and do each step completely before moving on to the next one. I am completely convinced that a full body off remodel is only really necessary in the more extreme cases where a frame needs to be taken somewhere else to have work done.

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Thanks, Malcolm, I'll definitly take you up on that offer. Think I can have this whole thing done in time for camping in the spring?
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Yup I would go for it and take out the entire floor first - at least that what I did - you should fit front and rear sections first - those are the hardest, then fill in the middle.

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Stephanie,

About how long is your trailer on the inside at the floor level? Polyboard (and plywood for that matter) comes in 4' wide sheets (of course). On my 31' I have about 27' inside at the floor line. This translated to 7 sheets of Polyboard - one of them getting cut down to 3' wide. I was actually able to use the remainder for making shims for the cross members at the plywood joints that are lower by 5/8". You may not know yet if your has this but it will be important to find out at some point.

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