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Old 12-01-2004, 10:46 AM   #43
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BG Lake is in our front yard, actually! We should have a little get together there. But if Jim brings that wine again, nobodys touching the trailer

I'm heading out to Home Depot to look over flooring samples and see if I can rent a tool to take up the old vinyl. I've seen them in pictures, it looks like a thin flat shovel - gets under the vinyl. The guy who put it down used pleanty of glue!

I'm thinking I'd like to put down yellow flooring again, but something without a pattern. The trailer has a yellow countertop, and yellow in the bathroom. Plus the vinyl wall covering sort of has a yellow to it (probably age related). I figure why fight it, plus it'll be bright and sunny inside.
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Old 12-01-2004, 12:00 PM   #44
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Ok Gary - here's an idea for a winter rally. Stephanie and I will bring our trailers to your neighborhood - then you can talk us through replacing our univolts (something I've been thinking of doing too with an intellipower). I'll bring bacon!
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I've done it before and I can do it again. It is not hard at all.
Mine took me about 3/4 of an hour to repalce. I kept the old Fuse panel, I saw no need to replace it. Works fine now.
Any help I can give let me know. Next rally let me know and I'll bring my tools and we'll replace it.
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Paint scrapers and VCT...

Stephanie,

Is your existing flooring in squares or a continuous sheet? If it is squares you might be able to get it up OK with a broad flat bladed paint scraper and a rubber mallet. The squares might very well crack into smaller pieces no matter what tool you use and you probably will have to go over the floor with something to scrape it down anyway. I had parquet squares in the kitchen area of my unit when I first got it. They, of course, were thicker than linoleum squares and popped off with a small pry bar. I found a good pull type paint scraper worked for getting the glue residue off. I am not at all sure now why I bothered since that old floor is now long gone.

You might want to take a look at the Armstrong vinyl composition tiles (VCT) at Home Depot. They are the ones that you have to use seperate adhesive to lay down (as opposed to the peel and stick type). They are about 1/8" thick and the color goes all the way through. Good solid stuff and reasonably priced too.
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Old 12-01-2004, 05:58 PM   #46
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Hi Malcolm, I'm actually looking at the Armstrong Marmolette linoleum, in sheets. The existing floor is sheet vinyl, but it's a bit of a patchwork where they fit it in this way and that under the furniture. It looks good in the walking area. I don't think I'm going to worry about going under the furniture so much.

I'd like to put a yellow floor back in it, so I'm looking at Straw Yellow. I went and ordered a sample today so I can check it out in person.

I'd also like to do a new table with a fun pattern with some yellow in it, but I haven't found what I'm looking for in the Formica section yet. Time to search the net. I'd love to find something with boomerangs or an atomic pattern. I love that fun retro stuff.

I also got a sturdy paint scraper, and will be peeling up some of that old floor tonight to see what's under there.
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Well, I found a big patch in the floor across the very front of the trailer, under where the fresh water tank would have been.

The vinyl is really stuck down, I seem to alternate between just taking off the top layer, or gouging up wood. It's hard work, and I barely made a dent in it! I see now which part of this project is going to take the most time!
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Stephanie,

I have some pointers to laminate information as follows:

Wilsonart:
http://www.wilsonart.com/laminate/co...ucts/index.asp

Custom Wilsonart: You supply the graphics of anything you want.
http://www.tapeease.com/custom_laminate.htm

And just for good measure a site that sells all sorts of very cool retro fabric that could be used for curtains, etc. Look especially at the Interior Design Textiles button. I wonder if you could glue fabric on your table and add several layers of polyvarathane or a pour on clear resin?
http://www.contemporarycloth.com/

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I'm afraid this is going to be expensive...

Greetings Stephanie!

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Well, I found a big patch in the floor across the very front of the trailer, under where the fresh water tank would have been.

The vinyl is really stuck down, I seem to alternate between just taking off the top layer, or gouging up wood. It's hard work, and I barely made a dent in it! I see now which part of this project is going to take the most time!
I haven't tried this method in an Airstream, but I did use this technique to remove sheet vinyl from my kitchen floor after the flood of 1993. I used a heat gun set on low heat with an extra-wide concentrator nozzle (about 3.5") to heat the vinyl ahead of a 6" heavy-duty paint scraper. It was still tedious work, but the heat would soften the mastic enough to release most of the tile and its backing. This is one of those methods that requires breathing protrection and good ventilation as the fumes can be noxious.

Good luck with your project!

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Connecting my post last night with Kevin's post -- the reason the user can hardly smell the work when wearing a good paint spray respirator is that the filter canister removes organic materials -- whether it's the obnoxious solvent in RotDoctor or fumes from heating tiles like Kevin mentions. A worthy very small investment for pulmonary health!! Just use with good ventilation so that sufficient oxygen is in the environment where you're working.
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I'd also like to do a new table with a fun pattern with some yellow in it, but I haven't found what I'm looking for in the Formica section yet. Time to search the net. I'd love to find something with boomerangs or an atomic pattern. I love that fun retro stuff.
Most kitchen remodeling places have the whole Formica and Wilsonart chains. The big box home stores only show approx 25% of the available (if that much) styles. If you have a decent one in your area, they should be willing to at least let you see the chain, and may let you borrow it for a day or two to check colors. The retro stuff is back in vogue, so you could go with a jetsons table top if you want to.
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Thanks, Steve-o

Hey, I really like that fabric and clear resin idea. I think I might try something like that. I'm saving the original tabel so I can go back to it if I want to, so I'm free to play around with being creative on the new tabletop.

Thanks for the reminder on the paint respirator, Bob. I think I'll order one of those before I do any heat work on the vinyl.
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...I used a heat gun set on low heat with an extra-wide concentrator nozzle (about 3.5") to heat the vinyl ahead of a 6" heavy-duty paint scraper...
I used to heat square floor tiles for removal with an iron (like you're supposed to be using on clothes ).

Put an old dishtowel over the tile first, and iron that. It may be a bit slower than Kevin's idea, but I do not recall any fumes. Plus, I was able to reuse the tile if it was necessary.

Do hold the starch though.

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Great, I can just hear my hubby..."You won't iron my shirts, but look at you now!"
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I haven't had a chance to go iron the floor yet, but I did go to the unit's Christmas Luncheon yesterday, and ran into the PO of my trailer. He has been following this thread, so he already knew about the hole in the floor. He said he put the plywood over the soft spot years ago, and if he'd known then what he knows now, he would have used some stop-rot on it to stop it from becoming a big hole. He said he also did the repair under the watertank, which I am just starting to get a look at as I peel up the old vinyl, and he fixed another hole by the door where the door gasket had let water in. I'll see that one when I get that vinyl up. He also encouraged me to take off the bellypan. He said he'd never had it off on the Caravel, but he has done it on his early 70s Safari and it is no problem to get off and back on again, so that encouraged me a bit.

Hopefully today I'll have a chance to get out and see if I can get up more of that vinyl!
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