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Old 08-04-2016, 11:01 PM   #15
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Quality inverters and all inverter/chargers have fully integrated automatic transfer switches built in to the device.
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Old 08-07-2016, 09:10 AM   #16
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Lew I am currently looking in to purchasing a 2017 flying cloud 30 can you tell me where I could install a hard wired surge protector, Particularly a progressive industries HWS50c?
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Old 08-08-2017, 03:12 PM   #17
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Replace Univolt

I am seeking similar feedback. I have a Univolt that is noisy and get quite hot. After a bit of research, I see the Univolt charges the battery and then the entire 73 Argosy system runs on battery. Minus the 110V circuits.

For the relatively low money, I can replace the Univolt with a Battery Charger and AC/DC 30amp converter. My thought is to take the 110V straight to the AC/DC system. I can add more ACC converters or batteries in parallel in the future.

Not in the system, but I do plan on installing a Power Energy Meter

What might I be over looking or should reconsider?

AC/DC converter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Battey Charger:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BQSIWK..._t1_B0009IBJCQ


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Old 08-08-2017, 05:57 PM   #18
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I am seeking similar feedback. I have a Univolt that is noisy and get quite hot. After a bit of research, I see the Univolt charges the battery and then the entire 73 Argosy system runs on battery. Minus the 110V circuits.

For the relatively low money, I can replace the Univolt with a Battery Charger and AC/DC 30amp converter. My thought is to take the 110V straight to the AC/DC system. I can add more ACC converters or batteries in parallel in the future.

Not in the system, but I do plan on installing a Power Energy Meter

What might I be over looking or should reconsider?

AC/DC converter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Battey Charger:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BQSIWK..._t1_B0009IBJCQ


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Hi

If you want a setup that will keep your batteries going for a year or two, grab the cheapest gizmo you can find. If you would rather have your batteries last for 5 or 6 years, get something better.

The power supply in your first link is a great thing for building a 3D printer. If you hook it up to a battery, it likely will catch fire. It's not designed in any way to run with a battery.

The charger you link in the second reference is designed (according to the manufacturer) "to be used with dead batteries". Yes that's bizarre. Put a multimeter on it and you'll find it putting really crazy voltages on the battery. They will not do your battery any good long term. They could blow out some of the devices you have on your 12V writing ....

If you really have to go cheap and Amazon, at least get one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/DLS-45-AUTOMA...s=iota+charger

Certainly not the best thing you could get, but at least it's designed to do what you want to do.

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Old 08-08-2017, 07:48 PM   #19
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I have to agree with uncle bob, you'll be much better off spending a little extra for a rv specific converter/charger like like the iota or progressive dynamics. Better and cheaper in the long run to do it right first.
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Old 08-08-2017, 09:47 PM   #20
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The Progressive Dynamics unit is easy to install, quiet, and dependable. It won't boil the battery like the old univolt will. No brainer to use as an upgrade and worth every penney.
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Thanks for the feedback. I see your points and read up on 3 stage chargers and consider the safty concerns.

Looking at the WFCO WF8955PECB
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004BC59S6..._t1_B0064DRIA2

or the progressive dynamic PD4045KV

https://www.amazon.com/Progressive-D...ssive+dynamics

Driving LED lights indoors and out, and a stereo. 1973 20' argosy.

Should I consider a seperate pannel and power converter? The all in one unit looks clean to me.
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Where is your 110V service entry and breaker panel? Unless you removed it, the existing breaker panel will work fine. The all in one unit is good for the person who is doing a complete rewire job. I used one in the Caravel and it works well, but I used it because all the wiring and boxes had to go. I used a PD9245 in the Minuet just to replace the Univolt. 110V wiring there was fine and the PD9245 was plug and play.
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The Waco and PD you mention are nice but only practical if your 120vac and 12vdc circuits all start in the same spot, which unless you do a full rewire isn't likely on a argosy.
You'll want a stand alone converter/charger like the progressive dynamics pd9245.

Check out bestconverter.com for a good assortment of converters.

Are the 12v fuses incorporated in your univolt or separate fuse panel?
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