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Old 02-17-2013, 11:00 AM   #1
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4yrs later finally starting on The Rooster

I had bought this 1967 Caravel in Greensboro NC when I was living in Athens, GA. Well I moved to South Dakota and picked up pheasant hunting and what better way to hunt than out of this AirStream.
After a great hunting year with my new puppy George I have decided to tear into this project.
I closed the door on the bath room 4yrs ago and decided this morning would be the day we open it up and get started.
My major fear was the shower pan. I found a picture here of what one should look like. https://picasaweb.google.com/bbell13...97456621051202
As you can see I'm missing half of the shower pan that goes under the toilet.
Can I find one anywhere? Is my pan Fiberglass and can I have it redone or is the the plastic one?
If I can't find one and it can't be repaired would it be that bad to make one out of a engineered granite. I work at a granite factory so the materials would be scrap for other jobs so its free. I think I could do the whole bath room and be in at under 80lbs.
My other question is would it be bad to change the upper cabinets lids to solid wood. I don't care for the plastic looking finish on these. Thanks for all the help. I'll try and keep the progress and pics coming.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:21 AM   #2
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Free is a hard price to beat. Howdy from Sioux Falls.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:30 AM   #3
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Can't help with the shower pan. Maybe one of those places that makes spas would be interested in laying one in for you.
I didn't like the airplane style doors on the upper cabinets. So I removed the doors, built new face frames and doors. Then attached them to the existing aluminum frame.
There are pics on my blog.
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Old 02-17-2013, 12:02 PM   #4
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Wow you did a good job on the doors. I doubt a spa place would touch it for under 500 bucks. There is always the hope someone will know where I can find on cheap. I'm going to make a template and start on the granite one just in case one doesn't show up.
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:51 PM   #5
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A P.O. must have removed part of your shower pan to replace the black water tank under the toilet. I don't have a source for an exact replacement, but incaplastics.com may be able to fabricate one for you given exact measurements, photos, etc. A search of this forum may help.
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Wow you did a good job on the doors. I doubt a spa place would touch it for under 500 bucks. There is always the hope someone will know where I can find on cheap. I'm going to make a template and start on the granite one just in case one doesn't show up.
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For $500 you could probably get it made from stainless. Granite might be a little heavy back there, but it's a nice short trailer so weight would be less of a problem.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:36 AM   #7
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Look and you Shall find a mess

Well kinda knew something was going on in there.
It looks like I need to find a welder in the Sioux Falls area.
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Sioux Falls has some good welders. The best I know is Midwest Metal Works in Canton.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:38 PM   #9
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There must have been some damage in the past as you can see my c channel is gone.
Any thoughts on what to do here?
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Old 05-13-2013, 02:11 PM   #10
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Is that how the rear support is supposed to look?

I would this it should run all the way to the c channel but maybe not.
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Old 05-13-2013, 02:23 PM   #11
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That is indeed how the rear support should look. a lot of units didnt even have that earlier on. If you have the classic U shaped c channels just have some bent up at your local HVAC shop. Use 5052 in .040 for some additional strength and your good to go.
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Old 05-13-2013, 03:33 PM   #12
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I can't help but think this black water tank looks pretty small. Thoughts?
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Old 05-13-2013, 05:39 PM   #13
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Well that escalated quickly.

Seems like some frame damage. Should I cut and replace or re wield the original? Can I still pull this a short distance like 5 miles to a shop for wielding or am I stuck in my driveway?

Thanks for all the help!
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Well that escalated quickly.

Seems like some frame damage. Should I cut and replace or re wield the original? Can I still pull this a short distance like 5 miles to a shop for wielding or am I stuck in my driveway?

Thanks for all the help!
Have you been towing it? If you towed it in, I'd bet you can tow it out.
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Old 05-15-2013, 04:14 PM   #15
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You do have some frame damage! I would leave it where it sits and call the welder out. If the main I beam is still in good shape you can weld to it, but I would just replace those cross members. They are thin anyway and you can go back with a thicker beam. I had similar problems with my '65, but yours looks worse. Clean the metal, weld those new beam in. Clean again, then POR 15 it.

BTW, that black tank looks like it was put in upside down!
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Old 05-15-2013, 05:09 PM   #16
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Good call on the black tank. Upon farther inspection I'm pretty sure it was put in upside down.
I towed the trailer over to a shop and going to wield new cross members in.

I also ordered a new Axis axel and the place is going to install it for a grand total of 540 bucks.

Pretty sure I got a break on that one but that said its about the only break I have gotten since tearing into the thing.
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Old 06-08-2013, 04:21 PM   #17
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I pulled out the water heater and I'm guessing the sealant around the opening is the famous vulkem everyone is talking about?
My question is white the color everyone uses or do I have choices?
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I used gray butyl on the water heater install. I use gray Vulkem but not on the water heater. Lowes in Sioux Falls stocked it last year. Not sure about now.
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:56 PM   #19
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I don't know if it is upside down or just an aftermarket or special model because it does not look like the standard Caravel black tank. I have the shell off and have set a goal to have the belley pan and the old floor out by Friday if the weather holds. Glad that I did a shell off because the U or some call it C channel sits on top of the floor and I have to replace it. good luck on the project.
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I pulled out the water heater and I'm guessing the sealant around the opening is the famous vulkem everyone is talking about?
My question is white the color everyone uses or do I have choices?
Vulkem used to come in gray. Vintage Trailer Supply had on their website a few months back that Vulkem has been discontinued. The new replacement that is suppose to be even better is TremPro 635. It comes in gray also and is available at VTS. I have used it and it has worked great for my needs.

That said, I still used the gray butyl for the water heater also. It works better for some situations where a uniform wide seal is appropriate.
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