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Old 01-11-2017, 10:00 AM   #1
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Restoring the 71 Tradewind

My son brought me his new '71 Tradewind over Christmas because I had "more time and tools" than he did. So I started my first AS restoration project. So far I have about 24 contact hours gutting and exposing, which doesn't count the innumerable hours reading forum listings. Everything was essentially vintage and in decent shape. Lots of broken curtain clips and a few other brittle plastic parts. But the furnace and refrig and range worked. The A/C worked after I cleaned out the grills and got the fan spinning. Don't know if it actually cools, but its slated for replacement anyway. The copper pipes were cracked throughout, so I don't know if the water heater worked, but it too is slated for replacement. I knew we had a broken front window and a leaking curb-side wing window, so I suspected from front end damage. Back end was a little soft, and I saw some corrosion of the frame there.

Now everything is out in front and from the side beds back. Rear belly pan is out. The kitchen cabinet has been pulled away from the wall, exposing a bad spot below the fresh water fill port. Also have a bad spot under the windows next to the door, but that seem to be a leak at a n awning attachment hole. Next step is to get the bathroom floor removed so I can see how much needs to be done to the frame.

photos to come shortly.
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:15 AM   #2
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Back end gutted down to black water tank, water heater and some plumbing
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:20 AM   #3
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hello

looks good, great project. Welcome to the forums!
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:45 AM   #4
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So you are restoring your SON'S trailer? Wow! I sure hope he is helping out lol. My dad has a lot more 'time and tools' than I do with 3 kids but.... you know what they say about teaching a man to fish…
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Old 01-11-2017, 12:03 PM   #5
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If the furnace is the original Suburban NT22 there was a serious recall on it. The rubber crossover tube leaks letting CO into the trailer. If yours is original the crossover tube has turned to dust years ago.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:00 PM   #6
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agree with the above post - advise to not mess with the furnace - spend the money for new, they are more efficient and run quieter now anyway. Water heaters are the same - not worth trying to rebuild or repair, the new ones have auto-light on them (I just flip a switch inside to turn the water heater on now instead of standing in the rain and wind trying to get the pilot to stay lit) and they heat up so fast. Looks like a fun project! Enjoy
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Old 01-12-2017, 04:43 PM   #7
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I have done a lot of restoration on my 71. If you have any questions get in touch with me.

BTW/ If you have the original Armstrong AC and it works I would keep it.
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Old 01-13-2017, 05:58 AM   #8
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millertimeusa, yes this is my son's AS. I have my eyes on another AS in the wood near me, so I am practicing on my son's. Actually, I like this kind of project. Can't do engines or cars, but old houses and now AS are great. My son was kind enough to suggest that I could buy him a Cycle polisher, but that I could keep it as long as I needed it.

Lunatic and others, The furnace is a Suburban NT30, looks like 1969 vintage by the serial number. Found a wasp nest in the exhaust pipe and mud dauber nest in the intake pipe. That probably didn't help its operation or lifespan.

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Got the battery compartment and associated banana wraps removed yesterday. Now I have the whole rear damaged floor area exposed and ready for replacement. The rear 3 feet of frame will need some work.

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Floor rot along rear

Its amazing how one fastener always causes problems, and lots more time. Had one bolt on the black water dump valve, one screw on the battery compartment, and one on the water heater that needed lots of persuasion. Its also interesting that the banana wrap form the water heater and batter compartment back are outside the upper skin, while the ones between them and the wheels are under the upper skins. And they are riveted behind the skins, so you have to drill out a couple buck rivets and very carefully bend the skin to get to those rivets to remove the banana wraps.

Next is getting the bumper and tray off so I can get the bath floor out.
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Old 01-13-2017, 07:58 AM   #9
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Looks like your making good progress. I'm at roughly the same stage with my 72 SOTR. I've mostly been working on refurbishing the windows, but decided to start on removing the belly pan to start pulling the bath floor out. Did you get the pan off in one piece? I'm fighting with it to slide it backwards over the axles. I was considering dropping the rear axle to give me a little more wiggle room. Just curious about your experience. Keep up the good work. It's making me feel a little extra motivated today.
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Old 01-13-2017, 08:08 AM   #10
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The furnace is a Suburban NT30
NT30 is a common replacement for the original NT22 so I suspect this is a replacement That's what I put in mine about 10 years ago. Good running furnace with a little more heat output than the original. Suburban still makes them so you should be able to get parts and service. A 1969 furnace, I don't think so. Maybe a 1969 design.
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Old 01-13-2017, 03:58 PM   #11
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I have the following for a 1975 tradewind, hot water heater,furnace complete with ducting, refrig, 12V water pumpall were in good working order wwhen I removed them 3 mos ago. PM me at skippetsch@numail.org if interested
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Old 01-14-2017, 08:00 AM   #12
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Air Boy, I was able to remove the rear section of the belly pan in one piece. I haven't attempted the front piece yet. The rear piece would have come out much easier with two people. Once it came loose, it warped enough to bind. I kind had to use both feet and arms to get it back flat, then it slid out pretty easy.

Lumatic, the serial number on my NT30 ended in "69", so I assumed it was that vintage. It does not look near that old, so I will do some more research and testing before I decide whether to replace it.

Skippetsch, thanks for the offer of the parts. We'll see how things pan out. My water pump looks like a piston pump with a belt drive. Not like the new ones.

This weekend, I will try to get the rear plywood disconnected and out. Then I can get someone to look at repairing the frame. The two bad spots in the floor at the front end are small, but still require removal of banana wraps. And I will get the front belly pan out to see what issues with the frame are up there.

Does anyone know why most bolts through the perimeter of the floor and c-channel are bent? The bolts look like they were pushed up from below, with the nuts on top of the c-channel. Are the bolts bent to help keep the nuts from loosening? Can't use lock washers because they would dig into the aluminum not the steel nut. Bending the bolt would help lock the nut in place. Probably replace them with stainless bolts and nylon-insert nuts.

Air Boy, don't get discouraged. It will be a journey, with a very fun end result. (Well, for my son anyway.)
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Old 01-14-2017, 08:18 AM   #13
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Lumatic, the serial number on my NT30 ended in "69", so I assumed it was that vintage. It does not look near that old, so I will do some more research and testing before I decide whether to replace it.
A few details. I am sure the oem furnace in my 71 was a NT22. This furnace lit with a push button spark lighter and did not have a circuit board. It also had a bottle cap size screw off mica covered cap to view the pilot light and also light the pilot if the spark lighter did not. It would surprise the hell out of me if your NT30 is original. My NT30 has been flawless and so much easier. I did have to make a few modifications to the furnace height, furnace cabinet and plenum to get it to fit. My NT 30 cabinet has 2 holes for flexible ductwork in the sides that I sealed off and was raised about an inch on a wood frame on top of the plenum, This modification has been covered in the forums if you can find the thread,
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Yes, the bolts are bent to keep the nuts from loosening. It worked so well, we re-bent ours when we replaced the floor.
Welcome, and good luck!

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