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Old 03-19-2015, 06:13 PM   #15
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We just got a 73 Tradewind and are doing a total overhaul would love to see your progress
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Old 04-08-2015, 07:16 AM   #16
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Greetings all and sorry for the delay but I have finally got hold of the airstream and a workspace to start the renovation. I had the place where I bought it to replace the axles, brakes and new tires. Pictures are coming on that.

As you can see from the following pics I have removed all the interior and now about to tackle the sub-flooring as there are some rotted parts, especially by the bathroom. As I have read from all the other posts I should look at redoing some of the plumbing for the new bathroom set up while I have some of the floor up. I do not plan on doing a shell off restoration as I would like to keep some of the original feel to it. Albeit it will be scrubbed and repainted.

My immediate question is what to do with some of the plumbing and floor as it seems to me that someone a while back did some alterations to the plumbing and am not sure if all of the plumbing is active. Any thoughts, suggestions etc would be really appreciated. Thank you ahead of time.
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Old 04-08-2015, 07:27 AM   #17
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My immediate question is what to do with some of the plumbing and floor as it seems to me that someone a while back did some alterations to the plumbing and am not sure if all of the plumbing is active. Any thoughts, suggestions etc would be really appreciated. Thank you ahead of time.
You have two choices:
1) Map out all of the water lines and plumbing to figure out what goes where, and what has been disturbed/repaired/disconnected, and why
2) Tear it all out with the plan to replaced it all when you do the rebuild

A really good idea is to get hold of the shop manual for your year of trailer. I can tell you at a glance that your trailer has been modified by the PO, as trailers of your age typically had the main dump valve in the middle of the rear of the trailer, and the grey water was plumbed into that valve. It looks like your PO moved the toilet and black tank over into the street side corner in order to put the dump valve outside the frame rail, but didn't bother to plumb the grey water into that valve. So you might have two separate dump valves, you might even have a grey tank if your PO chose to do something helpful. No way of knowing without mapping it out and comparing to how it was originally.

As for your other thoughts on the shell-off. In order to do a lot of floor repairs that go under the walls correctly, you will have to remove at least the edge of the bellypan and some of the lower interior skins in order to get at the bolts that hold it all together. Even though a shell-off seems like a massive undertaking, by the time you have done all the prep work for several patches, you are going to be 2/3 of the way to a shell off. If by "original feel" of the trailer, you mean old, stinky plywood, mouse infested insulation in the lower walls, and a bellypan full of nasty, then definitely don't open up anything more than you absolutely have to--its a real Pandora's box!

Good luck!
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Old 04-08-2015, 07:36 AM   #18
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Welcome!

I purchased a gutted 72 Tradewind a few years ago for 2,000 and am in the slow process of a frame off (full monty).

I just finished restoring all the gaskets in all the opening windows and am now tackling the vista views and wing windows.

Looking forward to seeing your progress.
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Old 04-08-2015, 09:20 AM   #19
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thank you all for the comments and suggestions. i will get back at it tomorrow and will post more after a day of pondering.
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Old 04-08-2015, 11:23 AM   #20
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A really good idea is to get hold of the shop manual for your year of trailer. I can tell you at a glance that your trailer has been modified by the PO, as trailers of your age typically had the main dump valve in the middle of the rear of the trailer, and the grey water was plumbed into that valve. It looks like your PO moved the toilet and black tank over into the street side corner in order to put the dump valve outside the frame rail, but didn't bother to plumb the grey water into that valve.
Your 71 dump valve is plumbed in exactly like the original setup on my 71 GT, with the black valve under the above floor mounted tank and the grey water plumbed in after the valve. The dump handle protrudes through the banana wrap. There was a section of the frame cut out for the 90 degree dump attachment with the hookup through the belly skin. there should also be a channel welded to the bottom of the frame where the clearance hole was cut through the frame for reinforcement.

I would install a grey tank while you have the rear flooring removed. You are going to have to remove the aft section of the belly pan for repairs to take place. I'm guessing that the rear hold down angle is shot also.

If you click on my link below you can see the repairs I did to the back of my 71
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Well, there I go again, offering mis-direction. Anyway, I've found having a maintenance manual pretty handy. Might help you sort out your plumbing, and will certainly help when you get to trying to figure out your wiring. There are a couple of threads discussing good sources for manuals.
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