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Old 07-07-2010, 03:50 PM   #1
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What would you pay for a '65 in original condition?

I stumbled upon a 1965 Tradewind that has been lovingly cared for. It is completely original, unmodified and polished to a nice mirror finish. Even has the original appliances. And everything works! I'm not looking for another Airstream, but when I saw this I began to wonder if it might be worth it. I don't want to reveal the price as I want to know what you think you would pay for one if you found it. BTW, I have seen the value chart on the vintage trailer site, but not sure how accurate that is.
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Old 07-07-2010, 05:04 PM   #2
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well, for one thing, you're in texas. that changes the whole ball game. here in NJ, seeing airstreams for sale are like seeing pigs fly. i drove 3 hours and paid $4500 for a 62 GT in original condition, missing only fresh water tank and water fill valve.

the second thing is... when your not looking for your FIRST, its also a different ball game. for my 1st, i think and thought i got an awesome price. ive seen 62 GT's in worse condition got for $6500 on ebay and a gent in TN is asking 7500 for one right now on CL.

if this was my first in NJ I'd happily pay $4500 - $5k for my 1st AS.
In TX, where airstreams are a dime a dozen, its a different story.

Also , keeping my eyes peeled for my 2nd (dont tell my husband, ill be divorced before i pick the damn thing ups)... i wouldn't pay more than a thou.

market price isn't about 'what its worth'
its about 'what someone is willing to pay'.
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Old 07-07-2010, 05:36 PM   #3
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Check and see how much it cost to polish, and how many hours are involved. That will show alot of value just in itself.

Here in CA I know it'd be listed for about $8000 or even more.
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Old 07-07-2010, 05:46 PM   #4
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Sounds like it could be worth a bit. We found a 65 Safari last year in fairly poor condition. We gladly paid $2500.00 and began the restoration/upgrade. We have replaced or upgraded almost everything. Only the bathroom is and ofcourse, the red mahogany cabinets are original. We have put in about $12000.00 on top of purchase price and now are enjoying the effort. We wouldn't sell it for twice what we have in it. Hope some of this info helps....Tim
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Old 07-07-2010, 05:47 PM   #5
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polished to a mirror finish is NOT "completely original, unmodified"

unmolested, uniformly oxidized opaquely white with ALL exterior panels original...

would be more valuable (and they look cooler too!) and easier to care for...

haven't you watched the antique road show?



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Old 07-07-2010, 05:56 PM   #6
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polished to a mirror finish is NOT "completely original, unmodified"

unmolested, uniformly oxidized opaquely white with ALL exterior panels original...

would be more valuable (and they look cooler too!) and easier to care for...

haven't you watched the antique road show?



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Haha...ok ok. THAT part isn't original.
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Sounds like it could be worth a bit. We found a 65 Safari last year in fairly poor condition. We gladly paid $2500.00 and began the restoration/upgrade. We have replaced or upgraded almost everything. Only the bathroom is and ofcourse, the red mahogany cabinets are original. We have put in about $12000.00 on top of purchase price and now are enjoying the effort. We wouldn't sell it for twice what we have in it. Hope some of this info helps....Tim
Wow. Yours looks amazing. Knowing that it's not too far from looking this good makes me really want to get it.
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is the nterior nice or does it look like a porta potty?
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Old 07-07-2010, 06:17 PM   #9
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unmolested, uniformly oxidized opaquely white with ALL exterior panels original...
would be more valuable (and they look cooler too!) and easier to care for...
not to argue, but don't you think you're in the minority on that opinion?
Ie, don't more people prefer them polished?
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not to argue, but don't you think you're in the minority on that opinion?
Ie, don't more people prefer them polished?
perhaps

but the question was what each of us would pay individually.

"what's it worth" is always a 1 on 1 transaction.
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the finest bambi i've ever seen had a totally uniform essentiallyl DORMANT frost on the out side.

all panels evenly covered with virtually no dents/dings/scrapes or funky metal shapes.

it could not be a MORE unassuming old looking stream on the outside.

which is EXACTLY what it is, an old bambi.

however, upon opening the door a TOTALLY NEW appearing inside is seen,

period/appliance correct right down to the zolatone on the walls

and with fresh new fabrics that represent what COULD have been used.

it's like a time capsule back to 1960-61.

the owner did a shell OFF, TRUE RESTORATION,

replacing/repairing as needed structural bits and internals...

then put it back together, just like it had been.

it's really really cool and the only bambi i'd ever consider paying much for...
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polishing removes metal, alters rivets and means continued attention is needed.

it's a great way to hide panel replacements, repairs or minimize surface scars and UNeven aging...

but it is also a huge assault on the natural finish earned over decades of use or exposure.

the mirror shiny exterior is to grab attention, stand OUT and so on...

for those that WANT THAT it's entirely fine.
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some folks pay a LOT for a facelift and then wanna pretend it never happened or is 'normal'...

but i'd prefer new arteries, bones and organs in the same old bag of skin...

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polishing -
a huge assault on the natural finish earned over decades of use or exposure.
the mirror shiny exterior is to grab attention, stand OUT and so on...
for those that WANT THAT it's entirely fine.
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I think you may have this wrong. Much of the value of vintage Airstreams is because they CAN be restored/updated & POLISHED. A short scan on ebay or the classified's will verify that restored/updated & polished bring much more money than units with oxidized dull exteriors. If the exterior could not be brought back to original or shinner then most would have disapeared in somebodies back field or in the woods as a hunting camp. The fact that they CAN be POLISHED is what saves most of them. When new they were somewhat shinny and over time they turn dull just as the interior declines. Updating/restoring the interior and not the exterior doesn/t make sense. Just my thoughts....Tim (a proud owner of a restored/updated & polished 65 Safari).
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Don't get suckered....

First of all....Airstreams are NOT a dime a dozen here in Texas.

Second, they are, as mentioned, only worth what a buyer will pay.....period.

Beware of the "flippers" who find a nice, original, Airstream....then have it polished and then put it on the marketplace. It might appeal to you but I can assure you that your in for an expensive rebuild.

Eventhough I have gone the polished route in the past....I think 2Airishuman is right on target.....keep the patina if possible. (I say that as I go to the barn this AM to polish ....required because of skin repairs that left a mottled look.)
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I 'm sorry not to be able to give a price. To me, that depends on so many things, one's own resources, skills, health, Airstream repair savvy....

2air, your description of the old, unpolished, and restored, not renovated Airstream sounds like walking into heaven. Thank you!
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I'd like to jump in.

Does this model have the door within a door? I guess I could look it up.

I digress -- already. Back to the point.

If it is truly untouched since 1965, except for the "new" polish job, there are other considerations that might offset the vintage originality.

First, it will need a new axle (is it tandem?), and possibly bearings, wheels (are they steel split rims?), and brakes. Whatever is being asked, if these are not already present, you might subtract $1000 - 1200.

Are all onboard systems safe to use as-is, or will modifications be needed? Plumbing. Electrical. Towing equipment, including brakes. Modification of the tow vehicle.

Is the floor truly sound? Would the seller allow you to poke around the floor and beneath the belly pan with a flashlight and a scribing awl, especially at the vulnerable locations of bath, door, windows? Any softness or rot identified?

Considering all of the above --

If this trailer has been garaged all this time, protected between outings, free of vermin, no damage to frame, floor, skins; systems maintained, or updated for safety; ready to connect to the current standards for safe towing without modifications, and THEN polished for attraction purposes, owner has the title and current registration and tag in hand -- then, I MIGHT pay between $5,000 and $7,500 for it. But, I would also have to realize that insuring it would be very dicey, and I would have to be prepared to replace it out of pocket if damaged, and to be willing not to let such thoughts stop me because of the love of the vintage.

Otherwise, I might consider every update for safety, any hidden issues that even the seller might not realize are present and subtract those from the asking price.

You might ask an Airstreamer nearby to inspect it for you. There's a forum section for that.

My $.02

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