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Old 12-13-2009, 01:00 PM   #15
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The dent...

Welcome to the forum, Mitsy.

First, a lot of good posts and the only thing I might add is about the "Astrodome" cover for the large opening. Because we reconfigured the dinette in our 64 Safari into a bed, we wake up able to look through the astrodome and watch the sun rise as it hits the the trees. It's kind of a neat effect. If I were to design a replacement, I might make it photo sensitive, so we could also see the stars at night.

I also had a thought on the dent in your end cap. A friend, (Ace with the WDCU) had a very similar dent. He stopped at Vintage Campers in Peru, Indiana on the WDCU's caravan to the Internation this summer. Using suction cups and experience, they were able to pull the dent out. It wasn't perfect, but Ace was extremely satisfied. Enough so, he no longer intends to replace the panel. You might track them down at "VintageCampers.com". (Sorry, I don't know how to do those fancy links.)

You might also find some ideas on the website my wife and son made for our 64. It's "64airstream.com". Most of the exterior stuff is under the "Restoration" tab and most of the interior stuff is under "Renovation".

Good luck with your project,

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Old 12-13-2009, 02:28 PM   #16
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Hi mitsy, welcome to the forum! It's great to have another '64 owner to converse with.

You say that the PO opened up the area at the back where the dent is? That sounds like they cut a hole in the fiberglass endcap above the window, or they removed the whole piece. If they cut a hole it can be repaired from below but you should consider how far your restoration will go before you consider that. You may want to remove the whole piece depending on what other things you will be doing there. My first question about this would be how does it smell inside the thing? I found mouse trails in the fiberglass insulation above the front and rear endcaps. They never made nests up there but they could have. I was glad that I pulled mine out after I saw mouse droppings in there. Yours might not have suffered this at all, but I mention it because it's not something thats easy to get at. You have to have a lot of the interior out to remove the endcaps.
In your pics it looks like you might have more than one dent. is that correct, and can you post CLOSE-UPS? The one at the back looks like it may affect the window frame. Better pics could help to tell what needs to be done with the dent(s). I recently saw a quote for endcap segment replacement at something like $1250.00 per segment. The parts are about $400.00 to $500.00 per segment. If your interior is removed by you it may save you some money if you go the replacement route.
The futon matress is usually quite heavy. Are you using it at the front or on the side bed? Weight and weight distribution are critical with any travel trailer but more so with an old Airstream. You may be able to use it but you need to know how much it weighs first. Possible option: keep the frame and replace the cushion with 4 or 5" thick foam pads, fabric-covered, of course.

You need a new heater. So do I. Welcome to the club! Do not even hook up the old one if it's the original. I discarded mine and will be using a 120volt oil-filled radiator type heater until I come up with a good propane heater that I like. I won't be replacing the furnace with another one. I will use a radiant type propane heater eventually instead, and I put my air conditioner where the furnace was to keep the roof clear.
I am also going for the fifties look even though it's a '64. The original color scheme in mine was this HIDEOUS putty-puke color that was totally 1964! I can't live with it and going retro is the only appealing way to go, as the '65s and later had some WORSE colors even, and lots of plastic! WHOOPEE
On the flooring, I would say that you need to do a through inspection of the perimeter of the floor before you do anything on it. If you haven't removed the indoor/ outdoor carpeting yet, you should go ahead and do that so you can do a through inspection. What you are looking for is rotten plywood and I found enough in mine that it made sense to replace the entire subfloor, which is a big job. I found it at the front and back of the entry door, and along the entry itself, under the aluminum trim piece. Also, under the front window, and below the jalousie windows in front of the entry door, and pretty much the whole rear end. When the PO told you it didn't leak, he was talking about something else, 'cause they all leak after about forty years, and our are 45! The question is where and how much.

I like the looks of your Airstream and I think it will be a real beauty. It would be a good idea for you to look at the Major Restorations in the forum and if you want, check out my blog in the link below. It's not been updated recently but there are some links to others with '64s there as well as my project. The Major Restorations threads take you through the disassembly and reconstruction of several Airstreams and has GREAT information. Also look for threads on how to inspect an Airstream for purchase and how to inspect your floor for rot. These cover a lot of how-to-check-things-out items like how to check your electrical system, water system, etc. The floor rot is a serious issue and is very common. The floor is held up by the shell at the ends, and the shell is held up by the floor in the center, by the wheels. So the integrity of the flooring plywood is very critical everywhere.
A few more things to consider before being road-worthy will be your lights, axles and brakes and your tow vehicle and hitch set-up. We can go into the rest of the bad news at another time ; I don't want to burn you out.

Best of luck to you!
If you have specific questions post them here or send me a PM.
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for starters I have always wanted ine and now that I have it I need to do alot of work, will post pics as I work on it. My main focus is the inside but, there are some things I have never done before.

The top vents are one. the two small one have fans, one cover works and the other has been capped over and screwed down. The larger one has been boarded up with plywood on top of the camper and taped over with metal tape. What is missing there? And Where can I find replacements for what is missing?

Another problem is dents, I read most of these forum pages and see that there is really nothing to do for it, The previous owner opened up the arean where it is, which is at the rear, bathroom area, top rounded area. Which seems to be even a more hard place to fix, any ideas before i seal up the hole? Also the area inside, Is that fiberglass? and since its rounded what would be the best fix, fiberglass?

the bathroom toilet seat is there with some kinda fabric cover that closes over the lid. My problem is after you raise the lid there is the bowl, it has a ring cap around the edges of it, it's mounting holes are broken and it just laying there. any one know where to get a new ring?

I really want to restore it to, at least original layout, but a bit prettier color sceme. The frig area has been removed I would like a clear straight on pic to go by to replace it. Got one ?

the bed in the hall is a single, not twins. anyone have a pic of one without the matteress on it, they have made a platform that is a bit ugly and I want to make it right.

the gas heater have been unhooked, no line there. anyone know where the line was suposed to run, or have a drawn out set of plans for gas, water, and holding tanks? they redone the water but it looks as if they didn't run them right.

the couch is gone and I know its not original but have bought a really nice futon that looks like a real couch for it, What do you think about that?

The kitchen stove thats in it was also put in by the previous owner, but i will keep it, its Turquoise reminds me of a '57 Chevy, it has a oven too! so would it be bad to design the interior in the 50's since it was built in the 60's?

The floor is ugly indoor outdoor carpet was thinking i might put in a laminate wood floor, thoughts?

The cabinets are in great shape, needs cleaning and shellacked. Missing 3 latches. anyone know where to find them? thay are a round knob that turns to open, inside is a metal peice that has a hole for the front knob to insert in.

For now thats all, this much should keep me busy all winter..........

Thanks for reading!
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:00 PM   #17
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what price would the rear top metal replacement cost to fix my dent?

I found this on one site and it dont have prices. anyone replaced this area before and have an idea about what it will cost, I have pics of dent on this thread.

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Old 12-16-2009, 03:17 PM   #18
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I buried it in my post above. It comes to around $1250.00 per segment. Maybe less if you remove the interior yourself. It looks like it would be a lot of work to do this yourself, and a few hundred dollars in tools and supplies.
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:37 AM   #19
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The rims are the original rims on my 1964 tradewind, my dad suggests i change them. what rims are compatible with this year?
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:52 AM   #20
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The rims are the original rims on my 1964 tradewind, my dad suggests i change them. what rims are compatible with this year?
The correct wheels are 15 X 6 inches, with 6 holes on a 5 1/2 inch bolt circle, and rated at a minimum of 2600 pounds each.

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how about replacing the ac? Ideas? Doing windows and vents now. I measured the king vent as 14 x 25. Is it x 26?
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