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09-20-2018, 05:11 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2020 22' Bambi
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Kingsville
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Is this a 1962 Tradewind?
Hello Folks,
New here as I am doing some research on this find. Never even thought of Air streams until I saw her. I was doing a good deed for someone and this came across my path. Been doing some research and the best I could do is 1962 Tradewind double.
The eighty-five old man wants to sell it for it to me for $1000. He wanted to renovate it but time got the better of him. Inside there is no water damage and the wood cabinets could be reclaimed and refinished. It would be a gutter for sure.
My wife and I would like to use it as a cabin/semi-permanent on our property. Perhaps use it for camping but not the main purpose. Concerned about it being too big to haul around to be economical. Minivan would be pulling it.
So one thing that I have not seen (please if you could supply me with the proper terminology) is a double window in the front with the movable glass pane windows, that can open and close. This one has two square windows in the front.
There is a picture of an old sticker that says: Wally Byam Caravan. Was that just a general decal or a specific model? I know I came across the Caravanner.
Something to consider is that when I start renovating this beast and I realize that I want to get rid of it. Is it worth more than $1000 cdn at this point?
Based on demand for these.
Thank you and I await your advice.
Any advice why the pictures flip from the originals that are uploaded? Quick fix?
Aaron
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09-20-2018, 05:15 PM
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Retired.
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Welcome to the forums.
It looks like you have a 24', 1962, center double bed model.
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09-20-2018, 07:25 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2020 22' Bambi
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Kingsville
, California
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This is what the design is this, in fact if it is a 1962 Trade Wind.
Thank you for the diagnosis.
Judging from the wooden shelving remnants is would be the Trade Wind double
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09-20-2018, 08:29 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2020 22' Bambi
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Kingsville
, California
Join Date: Sep 2018
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Breaking?
Is there separate breaking for this size air stream?
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09-20-2018, 08:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,225
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Welcome to AirForums.
Yes there is separate braking. If you are going to be towing this Airstream, I recommend replacing the axle which will provide you with a new suspension and new brakes.
This appears to be a bargain for $1,000.
Dan
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09-20-2018, 08:39 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2020 22' Bambi
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Kingsville
, California
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What can tow this safely?
What common vehicles would be capable of towing this? It would be a minimalist design inside. Would a minivan be pushing it?
Ford Ranger? F150?
The smaller the better when it comes to vehicles.
Thank you
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09-20-2018, 08:54 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,225
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Is this a 1962 Tradewind?
This is a loaded question on this forum. Most tow with a 1/2 ton truck or an SUV, but some do tow a smaller Airstream such as this with a V6 powered minivan. You would need a weight distribution hitch and possibly some frame reinforcement. If I had a V6 powered minivan I would do my due diligence to try to tow with it.
I agree that smaller is better. I tow our 66 Airstream (double axle) with a Toyota Tundra. I love my Tundra but it is HUGE and I wish I had a smaller TV.
Dan
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09-20-2018, 09:07 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1967 24' Tradewind
Blairstown
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SlocanValley
So one thing that I have not seen (please if you could supply me with the proper terminology) is a double window in the front with the movable glass pane windows, that can open and close. This one has two square windows in the front.
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The windows are called jalousie windows.
I paid $800 US for a 1968 Sovereign a few years ago that had been hit by a tree. The windows and some parts inside were worth more than that. All the wood parts were trash. The Trade Wind you are evaluating looks to have a great skin. $1000 CDN seems a great deal to me.
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09-20-2018, 09:19 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2020 22' Bambi
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Kingsville
, California
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Jalousie Windows
Is there aftermarket windows that could replace those? Winter sake and all. Well I suppose with a wood heater put in there then maybe the extra ventilation from the Jalousie windows will be welcomed.
Aaron
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09-20-2018, 11:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
MILAN
, Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,013
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!962 Tradewind
Great Find! Well worth the $1000 cdn for this coach. You can rebuild the Jalousie windows with a little TLC. The panes of glass are single pane standard glass but can easily be upgraded to Heat Tempered Safety glass (reasonably priced) that can be ordered from most auto glass dealers. If you replace with Heat Tempered Safety glass order by using one intact piece from your existing window the same size H x W x Thickness with pencil sanded edges and rounded corners to match the existing panes. You can do this one window at a time if funds are an issue until all are upgraded. That will give you some spares until all are repaired/replaced. The heat treated glass is 5 times more resistant to breakage as the original glass and if broken will pellet instead of shatter. So they are much safer! If you have all the hardware pieces on the front you can clean up the original rock guard frames. Then restore it for the windows with new fiberglass like the OEM guard had. I see in your pictures that the front still has the brackets for the rock guard. You should be able to rework these windows and make them useable for many more years ahead. Good luck and keep us posted on your new project, Ed
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09-21-2018, 12:27 PM
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#11
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3 Rivet Member
1965 24' Tradewind
almena
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 170
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Tradewind
Buy it now!!!
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09-21-2018, 03:39 PM
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1 Rivet Member
hsv
, Alabama
Join Date: Jul 2013
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"Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup."
Terry
When I read Pratchett its like a light shining in my brain into places I never knew were there.
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(Sorry, no advice wrt the Tradewind.)
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09-23-2018, 09:48 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1962 24' Tradewind
Old Hickory
, TN
Join Date: Oct 2017
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Feels like DEJA VU! I just bought the same coach last October on Ebay. I got into a bidding war with a guy and, well, $8,500 later I got my prize .Yes, it got emotional haha. Picked it up from a farm in Michigan and drove it on bald tires back to Nashville. (Seller said tires were good ) Put another $1,500 in it right away for a new Dexter axle and the rest of the time it's been in my yard being renovated (by me). As you guessed, you will end up gutting it. I peeked under my subfloor after gutting the interior and found an old rodent city with tunnels and wet, stinky insulation. Even found a mummified body of a bird or rat. Never intended to go this far but the frame needed de-rusting, some welding, etc.. Don't want to discourage you but be prepared for a long, arduous task ahead if you decide to renovate. I finally have the AC and DC wiring in and the new subfloor so I'm about to finally turn the corner on mine. If you get any helpers it can also start adding up. $$ I love mine and I will finish and enjoy it one day soon I hope. I also expect, just like classic cars, the Vintage Airstreams will only increase in value over time. One thought I might share. If you decide the labor commitment is too large, which I totally understand, you could just polish the exterior and flip it on EBAY, make some qiuck cash to help buy another trailer. Here's some pics: (the last photo is the new subfloor)
BTW, the front window in mine appears to be after market.
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09-23-2018, 10:14 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Is this a 1962 Tradewind?
That is some outstanding work you are doing JohnnyRV. My compliments to you. I agree that the value of your Tradewind will only go up. That is one of the advantages of having a vintage Airstream. You should start a renovation thread in the trailer section to document your work.
Dan
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09-24-2018, 04:35 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2020 22' Bambi
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Kingsville
, California
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Thanks for all the help so far
Well all the advice so far is helping. Leaning towards getting it but planning for the long haul as well. Meaning is not going to be done in a couple of months.
I need to go over and whipper snip around the trailer and have a good look underneath. So the the floor layers are (from the bottom up) aluminum sheeting, then insulation and then the wood floor?
Another question: Is there a company then sells after market lights for these? Don't think any of the original lights on the outside are on the trailer.
Any leads on the that?
Thank you very much. Many of you are assuring me that this is a good investment but it will be a lengthy process.
Aaron
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09-24-2018, 08:15 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Welcome Aboard!! 👍
GREAT find...
ODM
Vintage Airstream
Bob
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09-24-2018, 10:03 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1967 24' Tradewind
Blairstown
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 136
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You are correct about the floor layers. The aluminum belly pan, then insulation (likely filled with rodent nests and remains), and then the plywood floor.
Vintage Trailer Supply carries teardrop marker lights and proper tail lights.
There is a 1962 Overlander currently on Ebay, about 20 minutes north of me in Newton, New Jersey. It has a starting bid of $2900. I mention it so you have something to compare for pricing.
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10-03-2018, 09:52 AM
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CC
1972 27' Overlander
Heinsburg
, AB
Join Date: Jul 2018
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Welcome fellow canuck. You might be asking the wrong bunch of people, we are all quite prejudiced when it comes to Airstreams. I found my '72 overlander for sale on my way home from Edmonton and have enjoyed getting to know it; no regrets. For $1000, how can you go wrong? Parting it out alone could easily make your money back +++ But that would be such a shame.
Good luck,
Bernie
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10-03-2018, 10:04 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 23' Safari
Middletown
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 546
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If you decide to pass on this please let me know. I’d be interested in picking it up.
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10-03-2018, 10:59 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1959 24' Tradewind
Walter's Falls
, Ontario
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 89
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'59 with an Astro TV
I tow my '59 tradewind with a 4.3 Astro Van. It is a 1991, and for small journeys around southern ontario, it works well. I don't go on major highways. and mainly stick to the back roads, as i don't have a sway bar situation. Eventually i will get a bigger TV and take it to CanAm in London Ontario to install their tried and tested tow package that uses the TV's frame to counter the weight and balance. But for now, I just use this old van and it works well enough for my present needs.
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