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Old 12-05-2010, 07:20 PM   #57
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Joe not trying to work you to death but think you might have a weakness for this one my 55 safari shows # 576
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:57 PM   #58
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Can you give me some history on the number 27291? The original owner of my '72 Ambassador was a Colonel named Marlin Howard. He bought it from International trailer Sales in Ogden, Utah. Thanks
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Hi Joe I'm looking at a 75 soverign here. It has 30347 remnants on it. Would it be possible to trace some history on it. Thanks for any help you can provide.
BTW Doug (shacksman) has also helped me with my resto. I enjoyed reading your thread.
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Can you help me with this ugly duckling #21309 on a 64 tradewind she actually looks a little better now.
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Hi Kevin,
#21309 would have first been assigned in 1968, so I wonder if there might be an older number under it on your '64 Tradewind, as many new Airstreams got numbers the year they were made. On the other hand, not all did, and in any case, that number is on your trailer, so here is what I have on #21309:

In the 1969 WBCCI Membership Directory, which reflects membership as of 12/31/1968, #21309 belonged to Dr. Eldon and Zetta Parks of Elkin, NC. Dr. Eldon and Zetta Parks are last listed in my 1976 directory, still in Elkin, NC and they are listed as having participated on Caravan #75 - Eastern Canada 1970.

I am missing a 1977 Directory, but in 1978, #21309 is assigned to Harvey and Mae Parks of Elkin, NC, probably relatives, possibly a son or brother and wife, who could have owned the same trailer. Harvey and Mae Parks are last listed in 1984, still in Elkin, no caravans.

#21309 was then unassigned from 1985 to 2010, so it is clear that one or quite possibly both Parks families owned your trailer. That's all I got. Enjoy, and Merry Christmas!
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Joe not trying to work you to death but think you might have a weakness for this one my 55 safari shows # 576
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Hi again Kevin,
The #576 on your '55 Safari does not quite look like typical WBCCI numbers. On the other hand, the numbers were usually hand painted on the early caravans and in the early days of the club, and they can appear different than the "standard" number decals that were typically used from the late 1950's to the current day. For now I'll assume that the number is legit and not due to membership in another travel club (of which there were several that used these types of numbers in the old days). Some doubt about whether the number is a legit WBCCI number does remain in my mind, however.

That said, #576 was first assigned in 1956. The earliest Directory I have after that is 1960, reflecting membership as of 12/31/1960. In that Directory, #576 is assigned to Norman and Ethel Best of Midland, MI. The Bests are listed as having participated on caravans 1, 7, 10, 16, & 17:
1 - Central America 1951-52 (probably in a non-Airstream)
7 - Mexico Winter 1956
10 - Cuba Fall 1956
16 - Mexico Winter 1958
17 - Central America Winter 1958

It would appear likely that your '55 Safari was on some great adventures with Wally Byam himself, although it cannot be proven that the trailer didn't get those numbers under an earlier or later owner.

In my next Directory, 1966, which reflects membership as of 12/31/1965, #576 is assigned to Robert and Barbara Wood of Burlington, VT, no caravans. The Woods are last listed in 1968, same address, no caravans.

#576 is then unassigned in 1969. In 1970, #576 is assigned to Art and Zerita Bowman of Lubbock, TX, no caravans. The Bowmans are last listed in the 1985 Directory, still in Lubbock, and they are listed as having participated on the following Caravans: 86 - Alaska Summer 1972, 95 - Eastern Canada Summer 1973, and unidentified post International Rally caravans in 1975 and 1977.

I think it is most likely that the Bests owned your '55 Safari and it traveled to some exciting places, but that neither the Woods nor Bowmans owned your trailer. Of course, that is a guess and I don't have any proof. Now if you find any of their names on any documentation you got with the trailer, that would help prove the provenance.

In any case, Good Luck with your '55 Safari! (I am sort of partial to that model).

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For the others waiting for feedback, I have run out of research time tonight (it takes a while to look things up) - I'll try to get to your cases soon.
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Can you give me some history on the number 27291? The original owner of my '72 Ambassador was a Colonel named Marlin Howard. He bought it from International trailer Sales in Ogden, Utah. Thanks
Hi Lance,
#27291 was first assigned in 1972, so that makes sense for your '72 Ambassador. According to my 1973 WBCCI Membership Directory, which reflects membership as of 12/15/72, #27291 was assigned to Marlin and Irma Howard of Hamilton Hill AFB, UT, no caravans. I don't have a 1974 Directory, but in my 1975 and 1976 Directories #27291 is unassigned.

I don't have a 1977 Directory, but in my 1978 Directory, # 27291 is assigned to William and Eleanor Lippy of Millersville, MD, no caravans. The Lippys are last listed in the 1986 Directory, then in Lebanon, MO, but still no caravans. #27291 has been unassigned since then.

Due to the vast location differences, it seems unlikely that both the Howards and Lippys owned your Ambassador, but at least I was able to confirm that Marlin Howard was in the club at the correct time and lived on an Air Force Base in Utah.

That's all I can determine. I hope it helps. Merry Christmas!
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Hi Joe I'm looking at a 75 soverign here. It has 30347 remnants on it. Would it be possible to trace some history on it. Thanks for any help you can provide.
BTW Doug (shacksman) has also helped me with my resto. I enjoyed reading your thread.
Hi Chris,
Yeah, Doug's a great guy and I'd still be stuck without his help. He mentioned to me that he had helped you a few weeks prior to helping me. I'm following your thread, too. I don't know how you are getting so much done so fast! My project is moving at a much slower pace.

Now on to your '75 Sovereign. I can confirm that #30347 was first assigned in 1975 and that in my 1976 Membership directory, which reflects membership as of 12/15/75, #30347 was assigned to Gord and Betty Statham of Waterloo, Ont, Canada, no caravans. Gord Staham is last listed in the 1997 Directory, still in Waterloo, no caravans. #30347 has been unassigned since then.

Looks like you have an Airstream that spent its whole life (except for possible travel) in Ontario, Canada. Enjoy! And Merry Christmas!
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Old 12-25-2010, 06:24 PM   #64
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Hi Joe
Thanks so much for the info on the 2 trailers, really nice of you to donate your time.
Have a Merry Christmas!
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Joe,

Thanks for doing this. It is fascinating reading.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
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I've just purchased our first AS, a 1976 29 ft Ambassador. It has 14709 on it. I would appreciate any past info that you can provide. Thanks!

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Hi Joe,
My grandparents had two Airstreams back in the 60's. Their number was #201. Any chance you have something about that number? It would be really cool to see. I think they sold their last AS in 1971.

Thanks so much!! Sally
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My grandparents had two Airstreams back in the 60's. Their number was #201. Any chance you have something about that number? It would be really cool to see. I think they sold their last AS in 1971.

Thanks so much!! Sally
Hi Sally,
Easy one first . . . at least if your grandparents were Howell and Vera Cannon of Ventura, CA.

#201 was originally assigned in 1955 to Richard and Frances Howey of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. It is then unassigned in my 1960 WBCCI Membership Directory (and I am missing 1961 through 1965).

#201 has been reassigned to the Cannons in my 1966 through 1972 Directories. Howell is last listed in 1971, but Vera is still listed in 1972. The Cannons are listed as having participated on the following Airstream company caravans:
  • 36 - Mexico Fall 1963
  • 57 - Eastern Mexico Winter 1968
  • 59 - Maritime Province-Eastern Canada Summer 1968
This suggests that the Cannons first joined WBCCI somewhere between 1961 and 1963.

In the 1973 Directory, #201 is assigned to someone else.

That's all I have. I hope it concurs with your memories.
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Welcome to Airfourms - I see this is your very first post!

#14709 was first assigned in late 1965, so it originally went on a trailer older than yours. The first couple to be assigned that number, Charles and Anita Allen of Kingsville, TX are still listed in my 1973 Directory, but not my 1975 Directory (I'm missing 1974). They thus never owned your Ambassador.

In the 1976 Directory, # 14709 has been reassigned to Leon and Doris Drombrowski of Holt, MI, no caravans. I am missing a 1977 Directory, but #14709 is unassigned in the 1978 Directory.

In the 1979 Directory, #14709 is assigned to Carl and Marcia Traywick of Roswell, NM. The Traywicks are last listed in the 1996 Directory, still in Roswell, and are listed as having participated on Airstream Company Caravan 146 - Eastern Canada Maritime Summer 1983, as well as a variety of WBCCI club caravans between 1981 and 1989.

I spot checked after that and it appears the number has been unassigned since 1997. I seems unlikely that the same Airstream bearing the number 14709 may have been owned by both the Drombrowskis and Traywicks given the distance between them, but it is not impossible. Certainly at least one of them did own your '76 Ambassador. If it bears a dealer sticker from Michigan, I'll suggest the Dombrowski's may have owned it. If it sports a dealer sticker from somewhere near New Mexico, I might suggest the Traywicks, in which case it may have been on some caravans, but there are no club records to prove what Airstream was owned by a member and/or may have participated on any given caravan. It is all guesses unless you come across some sort of documentation (paperwork, stickers, etc.) in or on the trailer to prove something more specifically.

Good Luck with your new purchase! Enjoy that Ambassador!
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Thank you so much Joe, I appreciate you taking the time to research this.

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