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Old 09-07-2017, 07:06 PM   #15
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Axles under old Airstreams is a problem. Colin Hyde used to handle it quite well, but I think there has been some "consolidation in the axle manufacturers. I think I read Dexter now owns Axis. There are local suppliers for Dexter torque flex axles. The trouble is Dexter requires all these specifications before they will accept the order. Some folks have gotten a number wrong and been quite disappointed.

For my next axles, I'm going to my local trailer shop that carries Dexter "torque flex" axles. I'm taking the old axles with me. I will hold them accountable for providing an exact duplicate. I will specify 12" drums since I live in the mountains and use trailer brakes a lot.

The 66 Trade Wind Axis axles that came from Colin Hyde were 2800 lb rated, and came standard with 10" drums. The notch and bolt pattern was different. The shock mount was correct so I didn't need my welder. I did order the Airstream standard 22 degree starting angle. I kinda wish I had ordered a 26 degree starting angle for maybe an additional inch of ride height.

It took this old guy quite a bit of time to grind the notch bigger and drill new mounting holes. I made a template locating on the frame rail to center punch the new holes and mark the increased notch.

It can be done, and you can do it.

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Old 11-30-2017, 05:03 PM   #16
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Progress

I'm afraid to post pics as I cannot for the life of me turn my phone sideways to take photos.

But, the frame is finished being welded. It was much more damage than we had guessed. Pretty much had to replace the curb side from the wheel well on back. On the drive side it was bad from the water heater to the back. Had them add a hitch receiver to the back for a bike rack. It's strong enough to hold just about anything from the looks of it.

And, the axles are on. What a pain in the butt that was.
But it's over. And on the ride home it rode so smooth that the backer plate that we forgot inside never rattled out.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:09 PM   #17
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progress pics

I was pretty much obsessed about the axles. Here's both sets of measurements and then of course I see a trailer load going by.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:40 PM   #18
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Tanks are next

Here are before and after pics of the tires and axles.

It's perfect timing that it's back home. My season is quickly winding down if you don't count end of year stuff and Christmas. Ha. And,we're having just a couple of days of very late Indian Summer so I can get the frame Por'd.
I forget how stinky that stuff is.

We're sitting down and finalizing floor plans this week. Hoping to get two grey tanks that will actually feed into each other ordered and finalize the placement of the black tank. (Deciding which side to install the toilet.)

Oh, and I forgot, the door frame was fixed.

Any opinions on floor plans? Original or ? I'll post one I saw and wish I could credit to the owner.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:48 PM   #19
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floor plan?

I like the layout of the Safari a lot. But having 2 extra feet seems very luxurious. Leaning toward this floor plan but hear nothing good about beds against the wall.

Thoughts anyone?
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:50 PM   #20
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Ooops

Forgot the floor plan
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Old 11-30-2017, 06:14 PM   #21
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That “after” floor plan looked identical to the California built 1955 Flying Cloud. That’s exactly our layout in putting the FC back together. I see you have a curb side access panel that would allow a way to store under the bed. I like the layout. All is looking great. Good luck. Bubba
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Old 11-30-2017, 06:51 PM   #22
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The U shaped dinette is good. We built one for the son's 69 Globetrotter and he likes it. The table is on a telescoping pedestal and collapses to make a big sleeping surface.

Give thought to having the bed headboard toward the front of the trailer. I never figured out why Airstream puts pillows at the narrow end of the bed where your shoulders are. Feet are narrower than shoulders. We have a rear bedroom twin Limited and I sleep head to the front and feet to the rear. It is more comfortable for me.

Bath is okay in the corner. Son's Globetrotter is similar. It is a wet bath which I don't care for. But hey, who needs a shower anyway. You may miss the larger bath of the original design. By the way, the Globetrotter has an above floor black tank which has a bottom discharge. The dump valve and sewer connection is below the frame rails clear at the rear of the trailer. Not good. The tank surround is 9" high and the lowest height toilet we could find was about 12". That made a 21" seat height which is way too tall for the grand kids. Not good.

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Old 12-01-2017, 06:23 AM   #23
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Everything is looking great!

I really like both floor plans although I am biased because I have a 66 Tradewind. It looks like the original floor plan is missing the large closet in the bathroom next to the toilet.

Go with whatever works for you.

David- just let the grand kids use a stool.

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Old 12-01-2017, 12:08 PM   #24
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Just because

A friend needed help getting some old cars out of a barn so I took my skid loader over to help. He paid me in these...

The '69 red Galaxie even has a hitch and controller installed. Hoping to get it running just long enough to take a picture of it pulling the AS. Ha!

I have a helper that stays on payroll all winter even though there's not much to do. He gets bored so he's thrilled to have something to work on for the next few months. He's in charge of fixing and selling them and will split the profits with me. Win/win.
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Old 12-01-2017, 06:34 PM   #25
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How about that! It would be fun to clean them up and try to make them road worthy. It would be less fun if they need everything. My guess the 63 is worth the most money.

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Old 12-02-2017, 05:32 AM   #26
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How about that! It would be fun to clean them up and try to make them road worthy. It would be less fun if they need everything. My guess the 63 is worth the most money.

David
They need a lot. The 69 has a good body with a bad engine. The 63? (I don't have the title yet) has a good engine and bad body. His plan is to swap engines and then part the 63 out. But, most importantly, they aren't at our house.
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Old 12-03-2017, 07:55 PM   #27
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clean and paint

Wish we could have this weather for another month. Since that isn't happening I tried to get the Por on the frame and power washed the inner skins.

The skins were filthy but after scrubbing with some tsp and a power washer. they should be clean and ready for paint (once we get that far).

I sandblasted the frame with a coarse medium and a cheapo sandblaster from TSC. It was cold and dry the day I did it and it worked perfectly. Saved a ton of time over last time. I had to use the grinder on the Safari which worked but took way too long.

Then on to the painting. Since this is a frame off by hovering, I don't have a way to flip the frame. And it still needs to get into Dave's garage for the winter so the frame is still attached to the shell. Which means lots of crawling, ducking, swearing getting to all the nooks and crannies.
It's 90% covered with the first coat, 30% covered with the second.
I have a party to go to on Thursday and I look like a monster. Painting por over your head isn't all that smart. I'm going to practice dermabrasion to at least get it off my face. Why didn't someone tell me to look in a mirror?

Lastly, I was looking at the height gained by the new axles. Looks like plenty. Looks the same or a little more than the Safari. Since they're oversized I doubt they come down any after adding the weight back on.
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Old 12-04-2017, 05:20 PM   #28
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I hear you on the POR-15 application. I don't plan on using the stuff again just because I don't have the equipment to apply it. The directions were fussy on temperature, humidity, and timing. I laid on my back with a brush and a full Tyvek suit. The stuff has the viscosity of water. Drip, drip, drip. I brushed on my back for all of 6 hours for two coats. The product stops rust and I get that. But maybe I'll use just a top coat next time and hope for the best. I read some folks use a common hand pump type garden sprayer with reasonable coverage results. But I ain't gonna brush it on again.

I also wire brushed my frame with a hand held angle grinder. Yuk. Sandblasting is much better.

Do you have the specs on the starting angle of your new axles? I think the max starting angle is 32 degrees for a DuraTorq axle. Airstream normal was 22 degrees way back when. I ask as I have to make that axle spec decision on my Overlander.

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