Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 03-15-2014, 08:36 AM   #1
2 Rivet Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 20
Awe...where to begin?

Hi all, this is my first post. I've been trying to write one now for two weeks, but don't know what to ask or better stated, I don't know where to begin.

My wife and I just bought a 1960 Tradewind that is in need of a total restoration. I would tell you the serial number, but don't know where to find it, or if there is one. I am a finish carpenter by trade, which is why this project excites me. So far, our plan is to carefully remove what cabinetry remains (the front sofa area is missing), then replace the entire subfloor as there is dry rot everywhere from a missing skylight, re-insulate the floor areas and repair any electrical/plumbing that runs under there and then begin either the refinishing of the cabinets or rebuilding them using current techniques. We also would like to replace all of the major appliances and fixtures with current "retro-looking" replacements.

My question to you all is: What do you wish you did first on your Airstream? Knowing that hindsight is 20/20 what should you have started with that would be good for me to know?!

Thanks for the help!!
__________________

Tradewinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2014, 08:41 AM   #2
Rivet Master
 
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia , Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
Making it watertight and repairing all the leaks is first. Then it sounds like you will need to do a frame off floor restoration/replacement and frame inspection. Only then will you have a sound foundation on which to build the remainder of your new interior.
__________________

idroba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2014, 08:49 AM   #3
2 Rivet Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 20
Thanks, that helps a lot! Spend some time surveying ALL the damage, great advice!
Tradewinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2014, 08:52 AM   #4
Rivet Master
Commercial Member
 
Colin H's Avatar
 
1957 30' Sovereign of the Road
1959 28' Ambassador
1949 24' Limited
Peru , New York
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 741
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradewinder View Post
Hi all, this is my first post. I've been trying to write one now for two weeks, but don't know what to ask or better stated, I don't know where to begin.

My wife and I just bought a 1960 Tradewind that is in need of a total restoration. I would tell you the serial number, but don't know where to find it, or if there is one. I am a finish carpenter by trade, which is why this project excites me. So far, our plan is to carefully remove what cabinetry remains (the front sofa area is missing), then replace the entire subfloor as there is dry rot everywhere from a missing skylight, re-insulate the floor areas and repair any electrical/plumbing that runs under there and then begin either the refinishing of the cabinets or rebuilding them using current techniques. We also would like to replace all of the major appliances and fixtures with current "retro-looking" replacements.

My question to you all is: What do you wish you did first on your Airstream? Knowing that hindsight is 20/20 what should you have started with that would be good for me to know?!

Thanks for the help!!
Welcome to the Forums! You've got the order about right, but you'll also have to remove the interior skins & bellypan as well. This will allow you to access to the bolts that hold the "C" channels in the walls to the floor & frame. There are numerous threads that explain the process, however there are several approaches.

The first being the "body on" floor replacement method, which is far more difficult & gives a poorer job in the end, as far as I'm concerned.

The second approach is the "body off" method which allows you to rework every part of the frame, install tanks, etc, plus it keeps you from lying on your back under an old trailer with funk falling in your face. This is how we do it at my shop, unless there is only localized floor panel replacement necessary.

You should also check out The Vintage Airstream Podcast | Vintage Trailer Restoration as we've discussed these methods & everything else associated with vintage Airstream restoration.

It's a daunting undertaking, but very rewarding in the end.
Good luck,
Colin
Colin H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2014, 09:19 AM   #5
2 Rivet Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 20
Thanks Colin, I don't know how I didn't stumble across your site in my near constant perusing of all things Airstream!
Tradewinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2014, 07:00 PM   #6
2 Rivet Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 20
Well, so this is a little embarrassing, I'm hoping someone can confirm for me that what I actually bought was a tradewind trailer. I'm not sure because it seems to match the layout photos of the tradewind, but it has two axels and the serial # is 28ds-0203. Which would make it appear like an Ambassador. Confused as the inside of the trailer measures 24-1/2' not 28'Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1402189023.877548.jpg
Views:	166
Size:	890.2 KB
ID:	213746Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1402189102.213766.jpg
Views:	141
Size:	803.3 KB
ID:	213747Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1402189202.491905.jpg
Views:	150
Size:	806.8 KB
ID:	213748
Tradewinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2014, 07:17 PM   #7
Rivet Master
 
SmokelessJoe's Avatar
 
1976 Argosy 24
now being enjoyed by Heath and Mary in , Vermont
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,425
You can change your handle! Maybe it's not taken yet.

I think length is usually measured from hitch to bumper.

Good luck with your remodel.
__________________
Sergei
SmokelessJoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2014, 06:47 AM   #8
Rivet Master
Commercial Member
 
Colin H's Avatar
 
1957 30' Sovereign of the Road
1959 28' Ambassador
1949 24' Limited
Peru , New York
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 741
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradewinder View Post
Well, so this is a little embarrassing, I'm hoping someone can confirm for me that what I actually bought was a tradewind trailer. I'm not sure because it seems to match the layout photos of the tradewind, but it has two axels and the serial # is 28ds-0203. Which would make it appear like an Ambassador. Confused as the inside of the trailer measures 24-1/2' not 28'Attachment 213746Attachment 213747Attachment 213748
This looks very similar to my 59 Ambassador International. Check out the archive section in Vintage Airstream - Airstream Trailer Resource to confirm.
Colin
Colin H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2014, 08:01 AM   #9
Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
 
Inland RV Center, In's Avatar
 
Corona , California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,499
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradewinder View Post
Well, so this is a little embarrassing, I'm hoping someone can confirm for me that what I actually bought was a tradewind trailer. I'm not sure because it seems to match the layout photos of the tradewind, but it has two axels and the serial # is 28ds-0203. Which would make it appear like an Ambassador. Confused as the inside of the trailer measures 24-1/2' not 28'Attachment 213746Attachment 213747Attachment 213748
A very simple way to determine which model is measure the length of the roadside side sheet metal.

If it's a Tradewind, it will measure 14 feet, an Overlander would be 16 feet, an Ambassador would be 18 feet, and a Sovereign would be 20 feet.

Andy
Inland RV Center, In is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2014, 01:11 PM   #10
Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
 
Inland RV Center, In's Avatar
 
Corona , California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,499
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradewinder View Post
Well, so this is a little embarrassing, I'm hoping someone can confirm for me that what I actually bought was a tradewind trailer. I'm not sure because it seems to match the layout photos of the tradewind, but it has two axels and the serial # is 28ds-0203. Which would make it appear like an Ambassador. Confused as the inside of the trailer measures 24-1/2' not 28'Attachment 213746Attachment 213747Attachment 213748
The "28" in the serial number, says that the trailer is a 28 foot model, which is an Ambassador.

Andy
Inland RV Center, In is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2014, 11:15 AM   #11
2 Rivet Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 20
Even if the interior layout doesn't match those of the ambassador?
Tradewinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2014, 11:24 AM   #12
Rivet Master
Commercial Member
 
Colin H's Avatar
 
1957 30' Sovereign of the Road
1959 28' Ambassador
1949 24' Limited
Peru , New York
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 741
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradewinder View Post
Even if the interior layout doesn't match those of the ambassador?
Back in that era, Airstream would do custom interior work , so it may not match anything.
Colin
Colin H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2014, 11:42 AM   #13
Rivet Master
 
DanB's Avatar
 
1970 23' Safari
2005 30' Classic
1986 31' Sovereign
Lorain , Ohio
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,633
Images: 9
I'm a little backwards than most people (so I'm told!)

If I were you, I get the trailer safe with running gear, brakes, lights, and hitch.

Then I would go camping!

Throw an air mattress in it and go find a local park and have some fun! I've heard of to many people that begin the restoration with vigor, only to get burned out.

If you experience "the goal", I think you will be more inclined to keep at the project till your done.
__________________
DanB
________________________________
Proud Member of the Wally Byam Airstream Club #24260

www.campnova.com

The “Ohio Airstreamer -- Informal forum for weekend camping” thread.
DanB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2014, 12:14 PM   #14
2 Rivet Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 20
Well after taking you're advice, I got out the tape measure and found that I am more or less completely dumb. I have an Ambassador, not a tradewind, therefore making my call name all-the-more ridiculous!!! Before I gutted it, the interior layout was identical to a tradewind configuration, which is still baffling, but regardless, I appreciate all of the advice and assistance.
__________________

Tradewinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1968 Sovereign restoration / where to begin? vincentheath 1965-1969 Sovereign 12 08-09-2014 11:24 PM
Want to install AC-Where do I begin? seismicfish Furnaces, Heaters, Fireplaces & Air Conditioning 3 03-06-2014 02:33 PM
Adventures and Follies Begin ! Nomadtek Full-Timing, Winter Living & Workamping 23 04-09-2012 05:05 PM
Ready To Begin Tear Down To Frame.?.?! Althea68 Repairing/Replacing Floor &/or Frame 11 01-26-2011 04:28 PM
31' '73 Sovereign - Where to begin? GreenApple General Repair Forum 11 01-20-2008 06:51 AM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:10 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.