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Old 09-13-2015, 05:20 PM   #21
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Thanks Cwbiii. Don't know what happened to the pictures. They were there when I posted, they were there yesterday, gone now.

I've just noticed that the wood in the rest of the interior looks a lot more like the ash I see in pictures on the internet than that sample. That was a piece of the water tank cover that had to be replaced.

Fortunately, most of the wood is in great condition and won't need replacing. I've been corresponding with another forums member whose trailer needs a whole new interior, and we've been trying to identify the wood for their use.

If those pictures ever re-appear, I'd still appreciate your opinion on what kind of wood that might be.
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Old 09-14-2015, 08:11 PM   #22
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A few more pictures...

Here are some pictures of the interior with the bathroom door staged "in place". It still needs polyurethane, all of its hardware and to be actually hung so that it will slide in and out of the pocket.
You can also see the effect of the hidden led strip lighting above the cabinets which also provides excellent lighting inside the cabinets.
There are several shots looking forward, one shot of the original cabinet end panel in ash/elm, one of a transition (corner) with ash/elm above and oak on the wall,and another of just oak.

The grain on the ash/elm is different, but the color is very similar so it transitions very well.

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Old 09-14-2015, 08:23 PM   #23
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One other detail of using standard 1/4" oak paneling is that one side is plain luan instead of 2 sides of oak... you can see we chose to orient the oak such that when you are sitting in the gaucho looking back you see the oak, when you are sitting in the back looking forward you see the painted side of the paneling which matches the vinyl paint we applied to the inside vinyl coated skins. It is a very pleasant effect from either view.

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Old 09-14-2015, 08:36 PM   #24
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One other thing I should mention... My wife's Bachelors degree is in Interior Design and she has owned her own business for over 30 years with a bunch of prior experience in the commercial sector (Including the interior finishes of a new corporate Gulfwing jet)
I consulted with her on many occasions to make sure my intentions were in sync with hers... (I would not have heard the last of it had I not ...(;-))

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Old 09-17-2015, 09:57 AM   #25
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Is Airstream ash white, black, brown, blue, or green? Yup, there's five names describing four species. I really doubt if Airstream ever knew the botanical name of the species supplied to them, and honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't know their elm or ash from third base. Someone published in a brochure that it was ash, so we all believe it to be. Could it be elm?? 'Spose so...


Identifying wood by its surface grain is tricky, ash, oak, elm and others can look alike. You need to look at the end grain too. The herringbones between the grain that may be common to elm, can be found in some ash samples. I would know if I were felling an ash or elm tree, but looking at a veneer surface, couldn't say. The experienced Canadian veneer cutter, and now others referred to, contend that Airstream used elm, perhaps they're right. Back in the Sixties, I wonder why someone would market elm veneer as ash?? What's the point in lying about it?? So, jbobarino3 maybe you're looking for elm?? Either way, it's pretty wood.


I photographed a few veneers in my trailer to compare Mahogany, Cherry, Oak, and 1968 Airstream Ash/Elm?


I measured the 1968 aluminum extrusions...
The “F” channel that rivets to the inner shell wall to fasten bulkheads measures 0.227”, 5.77mm.
The textured “C”channel edging measures 0.180”, 4.57mm. An interference fit to plywood edge.
The plywood itself measures 0.185”, 4.7mm. So it's safe to call it 3/16” thick, interestingly, it has finished veneer on both sides.


The ash/oak cathedral grain comparison is from the internet.


TouringDan, Thanks, it's a never ending puzzle of space, balance, aesthetic, economy, function, scale, utility...


Mimiandrews, Your wood looks like mine. It's now another mystery, either Esh or Alm.


Cwbiii, The1968 TradeWind Double has to be the pinnacle of Airstream's entire history. Thanks for keeping one on the road, and so tastefully done. It's nice to see a rebuild/upgrade that respects the originality. You'll enjoy the free photons through your new pocket door.


"I consulted with her on many occasions to make sure my intentions were in sync with hers... (I would not have heard the last of it had I not ...(;-))"



Yup, Everything is submitted to "the boss" for her approval here too. One example, my six lite pocket door design was rejected, she specified fifteen, and chose the Japan imported plasticized Shoji paper. As the lites descend, they increase in size by the ratio of phi. Challenging to fabricate, but it's for the best, and Hey, who doesn't like woodworking??
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Old 09-27-2015, 12:54 AM   #26
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The wood is listed as White (or light) Ash is my documentation for my 69. I have had two different cabinet makers in my trailer that have called it white ash without me telling them what it is so I am going to assume it is indeed white ash. One of the posters here put a set of pictures up with more of an amber tone but the correct grain, I suspect that that particular set of cabinetry has been top coated with a varnish that yellowed with time.
My cabinet finisher said the factory likely used the ash as it used to be common and plentiful in the area of the factory
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