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Old 07-29-2009, 02:46 PM   #1
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1967 Tradewind Renovation

Well as I suspected the PO did not do a very good job on the floor repairs. he put a new piece of flooring over the black tank and guess what it was supported by...............................the black tank! So in order to do things a bit better I have decided I'll need to remove the rear bathroom first. WAIT! Can't do that until I remove the gaucho. here's where I'm at after my first days of work. Stopped when the outdoor in the shade temperature hit 102 degrees. I think it was hotter than that in the trailer with no air! Will post progress as it is made. Feel free to jump in with criticisms, comments, ideas, sage advice, etc. as I am new at this.

Thanks, Michael and Vicky
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Old 07-29-2009, 04:06 PM   #2
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Did you get the bath/shower out the front door. I couldn't get mine out of the 68'
And my ducting was under the floor, looks like yours is above.. Was the bathtub on top of it.?
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Old 07-29-2009, 04:12 PM   #3
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Well as I suspected the PO did not do a very good job on the floor repairs. he put a new piece of flooring over the black tank and guess what it was supported by...............................the black tank! So in order to do things a bit better I have decided I'll need to remove the rear bathroom first. WAIT! Can't do that until I remove the gaucho. here's where I'm at after my first days of work. Stopped when the outdoor in the shade temperature hit 102 degrees. I think it was hotter than that in the trailer with no air! Will post progress as it is made. Feel free to jump in with criticisms, comments, ideas, sage advice, etc. as I am new at this.

Thanks, Michael and Vicky
See all those dirty nooks and crannies as you pull stuff out? Now you get to make it all sparkling and new. Well worth the effort for that alone, I'd say.

Keep up the good work, it's going to take many hours, but you'll get there.

You've been around a while so you probably already know this, but for anyone who is tackling what you are about to, I always suggest reading the Major Renovations threads. Many of them are lengthy, but they pay great dividends when you encounter many of the same things these owners already have. IMO you get much better info from these threads than you do from asking questions on the forum, unless it's something VERY specific.

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Old 07-29-2009, 04:18 PM   #4
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Jason,

I tried to get it out the door and did not make it on the first try. I do think it will go out with some contortions. Was SO hot in there that I gave up and left it in the front of the trailer for now. I'll be trying to get it out the door tomorrow and will let you know. Yes, the bathtub was on top of the ducting held up by a platform. see pic
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Old 07-29-2009, 04:27 PM   #5
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Marcus,

I've read and reread many of those threads. Besides them being a great resource for information, they provide inspiration. Yes, I have been around for little while, but so far have only deconstructed, which doesn't take a lot of craftsmanship.. Sold the Silver Streak after gutting and removal of rear floor area. Sold it because wifey would not allow two in the yard. Thanks for the encouragement and your numerous helpful posts.
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Michael, I feel your pain. It was 113 yesterday, but only 108 today.
But Airstreams get even hotter inside. That's why I do all of my work in the morning and evening.
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Old 07-29-2009, 04:38 PM   #7
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Yes, I'm sure you can relate. It was 114.5 here yesterday and is 107.8 here right now. Whoo Hoo...a cooling trend. I'll be out there tomorrow morning soon as it is light! Now I am curious and am going to place a thermometer inside to check the temp difference.
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Know what you are going through. I have a 68 Trade Wind that I have completely gutted. Mississippi summers are hot and humid, no fun in an aluminum box!! Take your time and think things all the way through before doing anything. An hour spent thinking completely through the next 3 steps of demo in your mind will save hour 20 hours of actually work. Trust me. I replaced all the rear foor up to the first cross member. It is not hard, but be prepared, it takes time. The best suggestion I gleaned from the forms was to make a pattern of luan ply, make it fit perfectly and then use it as a pattern on the new floor. This tip saved me untold hours. Cardboard is just not stiff enough to really get the fit correct. The finish floor is heavy and you have to take in in and out many times go get the fit just right so the light weigh pattern ply is the way to go.

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Old 07-30-2009, 01:29 PM   #9
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Tub Removal

Jason,

It was a struggle and I was not too worried about the finish on the tub since I am going to redo. Not looking forward to putting it back in while trying not to destroy the finish. had to remove the magazine rack to do it and must be flexed and cussed at extensively. here's how it was positioned to come through the door. BTW right now it is 98 outside in the shade and 104 in the trailer. I'm done for today.
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:38 PM   #10
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Good job! The tub is about the hardest thing to get out of the trailer. When you put it back in get some help. An extra set of hands really helps when it comes to putting the tub back in. Stay hydrated!
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:14 PM   #11
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This might help you too.
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Good job, Michael. Wow, that's a tight fit for your tub. I'm glad things aren't that tight for my '72.
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:39 PM   #13
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Lee, Thanks for the diagrams, I have a couple of them in the owners manual (I think) and yes they will help with reassembly. Am trying to decide if I should just go ahead and add a gray tank while I'm doing all this.

Mike, thanks for the encouragement.
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You guys in California and Arizona have all the luck. Yours is a dry heat! LOL

Good luck with the project. Everything takes at least three times longer than you thought it would but paydays come regularly with the satisfaction of completing some small aspect of the larger job.

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Old 08-02-2009, 05:18 PM   #15
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Bathroom is out!

Was able to put in quite a few hours today. Here's where it's at.
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:37 PM   #16
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What's up with this?

Can't figure out why these cutouts are on the exterior skin and in the U-channel on both side above the frame. Take a look.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:30 PM   #17
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I believe those might be weepholes, to get rid of condensation?
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Old 08-05-2009, 09:16 PM   #18
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Had not thought of that. although I would not have expected them to be so large 1.5" x 6"
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Rear floor removed

Not the horribleness that I have seen hidden under some floors. Frame looks like no major problems. The U-channel had some little 'T' shaped nails that that were difficult to remove when they weren't rusted way. Now I get to try and recreate the corner curve where it was completely rotted away. The plan is to put the old floor on a piece of luan then put the U-channel in it's original position and tracing the curve of the U-channel where there is no floor. Then will use the luan to test fit.
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:40 AM   #20
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Not weep holes!

Not weep holes. I'm going to guess that was cut to some rear sag frame repair in the past. If you look at the sprayed black stuff you can see the holes were cut after assembly. Looks like it's weakened the c-channel and it's cracking. You should reinforce or replace those areas. Yep the t-nails are a pain in the @##. Good progress. Keep it up!

P.S. By the time I was done I really hated the spray in foam insulation.
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