Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 09-11-2012, 11:24 AM   #15
bilby05
 
bilby05's Avatar
 
1962 24' Tradewind
1962 24' Tradewind
Canyon , Texas
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 264
I spent the morning remove carpet artifacts, staples, nails and tack strips. Getting ready to scrape out the old tile and remove old appliances and obsolete bits. Found an old battery charger under the front gaucho. Must have been a make-do converter to 12volt. I have never seen so many slot type screws holding things together. Must not have used Phillips heads in '62. Any body know when AS started using tandem axles on Tradewinds? My '62 has single, but I notice some others indicate theirs has two. Well, onward to the floor rot fixing.
__________________

__________________
1962 Airstream Tradewind
2001 Ford 7.3 Diesel
bilby05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2012, 11:31 AM   #16
Moderator Emeritus
 
overlander64's Avatar
 
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna , Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,484
Images: 183
Send a message via Yahoo to overlander64
1962 Tradewind

Greetings bilby!

Quote:
Originally Posted by bilby05 View Post
Any body know when AS started using tandem axles on Tradewinds? My '62 has single, but I notice some others indicate theirs has two. Well, onward to the floor rot fixing.
I believe that 1964 was the year the Trade Wind switched to tandem axles. As something of a transition year for that feature, my notes indicate that customers could order a single axle Trade Wind in 1964 if that was the configuration that they wanted.

Kevin
__________________

__________________
Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC/Free Wheelers #6359
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400 VORTEC/4.11 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)
overlander64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2013, 07:03 AM   #17
2 Rivet Member
 
1962 24' Tradewind
St. Petersburg , Florida
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 40
I have just purchased a 62 Tradewind and have not even gotten it home yet but hope to learn a lot from "all who have gone before me" lol! First thing is that she (haven't named her yet, but feel she is a she) needs brakes. Seller said there were NO BRAKES! What kind of brakes did a 1962 TW originally have and what is the best way to fix or add brakes? Anyone please advise. And any advice on what is the most fuel effecient vehicle to trailer her? I will need to get a different vehicle as my 2004 Ford Explorer I don't believe can do it. Thank you, Mary in St. Pete, FL
Mary Burris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2013, 11:32 AM   #18
Rivet Master
 
Thalweg's Avatar
 
1962 24' Tradewind
Buffalo , Wyoming
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 577
The trailer would have probably had brakes originally. However, being over 50 years old, there is a strong likelyhood that unless the axle has already been changed, you'll find that you need a new axle. If that is the case, when you change it, you'll want to get brakes with the axle. That'll solve most of your problems.
Thalweg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2013, 03:32 PM   #19
Moderator Emeritus
 
overlander64's Avatar
 
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna , Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,484
Images: 183
Send a message via Yahoo to overlander64
1962 Tradewind

Greetings Mary Burris!

Welcome to the world of Vintage Airstream ownership!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mary Burris View Post
I have just purchased a 62 Tradewind and have not even gotten it home yet but hope to learn a lot from "all who have gone before me" lol! First thing is that she (haven't named her yet, but feel she is a she) needs brakes. Seller said there were NO BRAKES! What kind of brakes did a 1962 TW originally have and what is the best way to fix or add brakes? Anyone please advise. And any advice on what is the most fuel effecient vehicle to trailer her? I will need to get a different vehicle as my 2004 Ford Explorer I don't believe can do it. Thank you, Mary in St. Pete, FL
Your 1962 Tradewind would have had trailer brakes from the factory. Airstream was standardizing on electric drum-type trailer brakes, and the usual supplier in that time period was Kelsey-Hayes (usually 12" X 2" but some were 10" x 2"). Should you find that the brakes need parts, it is usually much more economical to purchase fully loaded backing plates in the correct size as all wear parts will be new. There is a somewhat remote chance that the trailer may have been equipped with hydraulic drum-type trailer brakes, but this was becoming uncommon by 1962 -- if this was the setup on the trailer, the trailer's brakes would have been tapped into the rear brake circuit on the tow vehicle (something that wouldn't be permissible today). It is even possible that your Tradewind could have had one axle with electric drum brakes and its second axle with hydraulic drum brakes (if your Tradewind has the optional tandem axles) . . . my '64 Overlander was delivered with the two types of brakes due to a special order placed by the original owners so that they could tow it using the hydraulic brake setup already on their 1957 Mercury tow vehicle as well as with their 1964 Mercury that was setup for electric trailer brakes.

The basic statistics for your 1962 Tradewind are as follows:
  • Dry Trailer Weight: 3,260 Pounds
  • Dry Hitch Weight: 400 Pounds
  • Factory Hitch Height: 19.5 inches
Your Tradewind will likely weigh more than the dry weights cited above as they reflect a stock 1962 Tradewind with no optional equipment, no fluids, and no personal possessions. My suspicion is that the Tradewind when fully loaded for an extended vacation will weigh close to 4,800 pounds with a hitch weight around 525 pounds. The hitch height is likely to be lower than the measurement cited as the suspension settles over time decreasing the hitch height (particularly true of Henschen Dura-Torque axles).

Some things to consider as you prepare to retrieve your Tradewind:
  • You may need to rewire the trailer's umbilical cord that connects its lights and brakes to the tow vehicle. Airstream didn't adopt the industry-standard wiring pattern until the late 1980s so the Tradewind's connector wiring may not match up to the current industry standard on the typical tow vehicle unless a prior owner rewired the connector to the modern industry-standard. My experience demonstrates about a 50% probability that the trailer's connector will need to be rewired. Also, it is always a good idea to carry a trailer end that matches your tow vehicle as a Vintage Airstream may have a round-pin connector or some other unusual or obsolete connector.
  • You may find that the Tradewind has split-rim wheels that are difficult to have serviced. The split-rims were designed to ease changing flat tires while on-the-road, but the technology is now considered obsolete to the point of being dangerous so that it can be difficult to find a tire center willing to mount new tires/tubes on a split-rim wheel. Modern solid steel wheels as well as aluminum/alloy wheels are readily available from several sources in the size needed on Vintage Airstream products.
  • The hitch ball on a 1962 Airstream would have been 2". Be cautious when you source a 2" hitch ball as the typical 2" balls found in the big chain stores may not have a high enough weight rating to safely tow an Airstream. Ideally, you want a 2" hitch ball with a weight rating of at least 6,000 pounds. Even some RV dealers need to special order a 2" ball to get the 6,000 pound rating . . . they are readily available, but aren't stocked by all RV dealers.
Good luck with your Tradewind!

Kevin
Attached Files
File Type: pdf Airstream weights and measures.pdf (100.1 KB, 58 views)
__________________
Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC/Free Wheelers #6359
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400 VORTEC/4.11 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)
overlander64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2013, 08:40 PM   #20
2 Rivet Member
 
1962 24' Tradewind
St. Petersburg , Florida
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 40
Hi there, Hey, I just bought a 62 TW. Do you have any idea how much fabric I will need to recover the front gaucho (and I assume I need the same amount of fabric for the middle-double bed gaucho). Thank you!!
Mary Burris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2013, 09:46 PM   #21
Rivet Master
 
Thalweg's Avatar
 
1962 24' Tradewind
Buffalo , Wyoming
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 577
Sorry Mary, upholstery topics are probably the piece I know the least about. Even if I knew much, our TW has two twin beds instead of the double. Hopefully someone else will be able to help.
Thalweg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2013, 08:23 AM   #22
Rivet Master
 
TouringDan's Avatar

 
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg , Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mary Burris View Post
Hi there, Hey, I just bought a 62 TW. Do you have any idea how much fabric I will need to recover the front gaucho (and I assume I need the same amount of fabric for the middle-double bed gaucho). Thank you!!
Mary

Take some pictures of your gaucho and take some measurements and go to a fabric store. They will be able to tell you how many yards of fabric you need. It will depend on the width of the fabric that you want.

Dan
TouringDan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2013, 02:19 PM   #23
Rivet Master
 
Thalweg's Avatar
 
1962 24' Tradewind
Buffalo , Wyoming
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 577
Cabinet Tracks

I've been making progress on the Tradewind. In fact, the interior is almost finished. Primarily waiting on my new black tank to arrive to finish the bathroom. I didn't want to post much prior to finishing the inside, but there are a couple of issues I thought I'd share

I had some problems with the tracks for the sliding door cabinets in the bedroom. Two of the four were OK, one was busted up pretty bad, and one was missing. I searched the world over, and was unable to find replacements (Isn't that a song off of Hee-Haw?). So I went out to the shop a couple of nights ago to see what I could come up with.

I took some 1 1/2 inch oak that I had laying around and routed grooves to make tracks. I think ash would have been better, but I didn't have any. I figured it'd be weak and would crack, but it seems to be pretty strong. My biggest concern is that when I get to a more humid climate, the wood may expand and make the doors difficult to open. We may be taking a trip to Georgia next spring, I guess we'll find out then.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	9-17-13 Download 126.JPG
Views:	97
Size:	54.4 KB
ID:	195876   Click image for larger version

Name:	9-17-13 Download 128.JPG
Views:	86
Size:	80.1 KB
ID:	195877  

Click image for larger version

Name:	9-17-13 Download 133.JPG
Views:	90
Size:	78.1 KB
ID:	195878   Click image for larger version

Name:	9-17-13 Download 135.JPG
Views:	94
Size:	72.3 KB
ID:	195879  

Click image for larger version

Name:	9-17-13 Download 132.JPG
Views:	97
Size:	78.7 KB
ID:	195880  
Thalweg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-2013, 11:00 AM   #24
Rivet Master
 
Thalweg's Avatar
 
1962 24' Tradewind
Buffalo , Wyoming
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 577
Well, I put the trailer to bed for the winter a couple of weeks ago and figured it was about time I updated this post.

I had hoped to be pretty much done by this fall. That didn't work out so well. I got the axle installed with help from Lukes Maintenance out of Fort Collins, CO. Luke is a wealth of knowledge and very helpful. I got the cabinetry refinished and reinstalled. That was a challenge because I was trying to emulate the original finish. It took a lot of experimenting to get the color right. I built a new cabinetry for the bathroom, including hamper but haven't finished because I haven't found period correct hardware yet. MarkR, another forum member generously donated a sink for my project. Thanks again Mark. I painted it along with the bathtub. They came out looking great. I got all of the plumbing reinstalled with the exception of the drains in the bathroom. New pex is installed throughout the trailer. I got a new black tank from VTS, but still have to build a platform for the toilet to sit above it.

I stared polishing this fall. I began by using the Nuvite process but moved to the Jesco process because it was much faster. I got the first cut (grey bar) done on most of the trailer, and one side done with the red bar. Even though I was working in the garage, it started getting too cold to polish. So I'll finish in the spring.

I reinstalled all the exterior lighting but still have to go through much of the electrical system. I've also got to verify that the propane system is tight. I also need to rebuild the windows. My wife is making new curtains, but she is very slow. So hopefully she'll be done by spring.

The wife has committed to dragging the trailer out to Georgia next June for our nieces wedding. So hopefully spring comes early so I can get back to work on it.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0001.jpg
Views:	100
Size:	106.6 KB
ID:	202026   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0006.jpg
Views:	105
Size:	86.8 KB
ID:	202027  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0011.jpg
Views:	100
Size:	64.0 KB
ID:	202028   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0018.jpg
Views:	107
Size:	91.3 KB
ID:	202029  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0019.jpg
Views:	103
Size:	81.8 KB
ID:	202030   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0022.jpg
Views:	106
Size:	77.5 KB
ID:	202031  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0023.jpg
Views:	108
Size:	85.0 KB
ID:	202032  
Thalweg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2014, 09:11 AM   #25
Rivet Master
 
Thalweg's Avatar
 
1962 24' Tradewind
Buffalo , Wyoming
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 577
Finally on the road

When I bought the Tradewind I thought it should take about six months to restore it and have it on the road. Now, a little more than two years later, Iíve finally made it. Last winter I committed to taking the Tradewind on a trip to Arkansas near the end of May. I figured I could easily finish everything up on it by the first of May to give it a shakedown trip before the big trip to Arkansas. I didnít make that deadline either, but we did make the Arkansas trip.

For the last several months Iíve been working on it every night. All those little details really add up. The polishing was the worst. I didnít want to travel with a half polished trailer so I kept pushing to finish it. In the end I had to take some short-cuts. It looks OK, but itís not what I had hoped. So itíll need more work.

Two days before we left, I took it on the road for the first time to make sure it towed OK and the brakes worked. I found that the left turn/brake light was not working (it worked two weeks before). Somehow I had lost continuity between the tail light housing and the junction box at the front of the trailer. With no access to the wire, I was concerned about how to fix it. I ended up repurposing the old brake light wire that is no longer used to the left brake/turn light. Disaster averted.

I rebuilt the entire water supply system with PEX but I had not been able to pressurize the system until the day before we left. I had multiple leaks at fixture fittings. I thought I was able to fix them all before we left, but found a few more on the trip. Some I fixed on the road, some still need to be fixed. Aside from that, the old air pressure water system and the old Bowen water heater work beautifully.

The burner on the 1962 Dometic refrigerator went out a couple of times the first few days, but after that, it worked great. It took a little time to figure out the best adjustment to keep things from freezing, but I was impressed with its performance.

The trailer towed better than any other trailer Iíve ever towed. I installed a new axle, brakes, bearings, and tires. None of them gave me any problems. I used an Andersen weight distribution hitch, and after a couple of days practice hitching it up, it worked fine. It really controlled the sway very well, even in bad winds.

All-in-all, I was very happy with the old Tradewind. We towed it 2400 miles and learned a lot. Nothing major broke. Now I look forward to dragging it up to the Bighorns now once the snow melts.
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0002.JPG
Views:	89
Size:	96.4 KB
ID:	213069
__________________

Thalweg is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
1962


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.