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Old 10-22-2009, 07:34 PM   #113
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That's a great shot! Would make a perfect avatar for you.
Congratulations on the beautiful work you are doing.
Thanks, I've really had fun with the project. Good idea on the avatar, too.

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Old 10-22-2009, 10:57 PM   #114
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Steve,
I read this whole thread. It is great to see a craftsman at work. The heater is neato! We were up to Orcas Island this summer and riding in a car on a ferry was different and fun. We are excited to go up again. Love the avatar too. Hi to Pam!
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Old 10-23-2009, 12:25 AM   #115
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Thanks Pink. Good luck on getting your trailer, I've been reading your posts.

Orcas Island is really cool. We've gone many times to Rosario there (although I guess it's hit upon our hard times now) and listened to Christoper Peacock play the old pipe organ.

Pam is still not too happy sitting inside the trailer and prefers her seat in the car. Hopefully the heater will win her over and she'll be ok inside Island Girl with me while I work.

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Old 10-23-2009, 08:23 AM   #116
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The recent work looks great Steve, it's time-consuming but so worth it!

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Old 10-23-2009, 10:33 AM   #117
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All I have to do is look at your recent posts, Marcus, to see that someday the wheels will actually turn! It'll be worth it for sure.

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Nice Steve....I'm getting close to shutting down for the season as well. I do need to get my front panel replaced and belly pan done. Other than that, install windows and pray for easy goings until spring.

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Old 10-23-2009, 03:24 PM   #119
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Thanks Steve, fantastic progress for you--what a great crew. I've been taking notes on your bellypan redo and will get to that next year when/if the rain stops.

I'll be able to keep plugging away this winter. Heat is functional and insulation goes in next. I'm hoping to get insulated, rewired, and maybe get some of the upper inside panels back on during the cold months.

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Steve, I am very interestedin hearing and seeing more on your heater. Did you research to get the best price? Where did you buy from? How was the install? I plan to use the hole from the old panel ray heater, but I see that you had to use a patch.

More pics and info would be great.

We hope to tackle the front belly pan and the front panel tomorrow.

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Old 10-23-2009, 09:40 PM   #121
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Steve, I am very interestedin hearing and seeing more on your heater. Did you research to get the best price? Where did you buy from? How was the install? I plan to use the hole from the old panel ray heater, but I see that you had to use a patch.

More pics and info would be great.

We hope to tackle the front belly pan and the front panel tomorrow.

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There are two different models of the heater and I bought the smaller, lower BTU version based on advice from muddy_hollow, Doug Reid, who has one in his Caravanner. Best price was Dickinson Newport Propane Boat Heater / Fireplace but I bought it from Defender.com, who I've ordered from before and they price matched. I also got the flue guard (flue gets hot) and a 10" section of flue to add to the 30" section that comes with it.

I patched because I wanted a straight run for the flue, but the pipe is flexible, so it's not necessary. Doug used the original exit and mounted the Dickinson Charley Noble right on top of his old stack from his Panel Ray.

Install, other than the flue, is simple. Surface mount, hook up the propane, and it also has a 12 volt fan to circulate the warm air (haven't hooked it up yet, works ok without it.) You open the front glass door on it, turn on the gas, and light it manually, so it's very simple. Starts with a blue flame and changes to yellow as it warms up, so it's a really nice fireplace effect.

The other thing I really like is that the flue is double walled, so that the outer section is intake air and the inner pipe is exhaust. That way, it's very resistant to backdrafting if the wind is howling outside and it's pretty safe as it isn't using any air inside the trailer for combustion. I've had the diesel version on our boat/home for years and it's our primary heat source in the winter. It's really well made by a company just a few miles north of the Canadian border from us.

I'll be over at the trailer tomorrow, so let me know if there's something specific you'd like in the way of pics and I'll get them taken.

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Old 10-30-2009, 06:41 PM   #122
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I really like this stuff

Prodex Insulation.

I'm mostly doing what has already been done by Malconium, Uwe, Carlos and others. Rich the Viking got me thinking about 2 layers and that's the way I'm going to go. Using 1/2" deep strips of foam insulation between the shell and the first layer of Prodex, glued on with foamboard adhesive. The next layer of Prodex will sit on another 1/2" deep strip of foam insulation and that will just about fill the 1 1/2" cavity inside the ribs. The wiring will go between the two layers of insulation.

Like many have done, my Prodex came from Insulation4less.com : Reflective Insulation and I ordered the tape for the seams and edges from them as well. Hopefully, one roll of insulation gets it done.

It's so easy to work with this stuff. Cuts with scissors, simple to fit. I had one day with the sun out (must have been weeks ago ) and there was an amazing difference between the bare shell and the insulated sections--hot and cool. It's been wet and fairly cold the last few days and I can see the heater warming the trailer up quicker as I get more of it insulated.

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Steve, you are really doing an awesome job on that trailer. The insulation looks great. I'm sure the extra effort will of glueing in all those foam strips will pay off.
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Steve, you are really doing an awesome job on that trailer. The insulation looks great. I'm sure the extra effort will of glueing in all those foam strips will pay off.
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Thanks, Norm! It is so much more fun working on the trailer now that the ripping apart stage is over. You're almost there--big step getting the shell off.

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Yup, I like watching you guys race each other!


Insulation looks fantastic Steve. Very nice work.

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Yup, I like watching you guys race each other!

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Alas, 'tis a race I cannot win. I may be slightly ahead, but Norm has. . . . .Ryan, and we know how fast he works!

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