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Old 09-18-2016, 01:20 PM   #101
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Nasty!!! Hope you wore a mask!
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Old 09-19-2016, 07:05 AM   #102
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Post a pic. I would love to see more .



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Old 09-19-2016, 07:51 AM   #103
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Then again I am a little partial.
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Old 09-19-2016, 02:02 PM   #104
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I got quite a bit of work done over the weekend. I got the nasty belly pan off. Shoveled all the leftovers in the garbage and got the belly pan tucked away for future reference. I had plenty of daylight left so I got at removing the c channels. It took most of the tricks I know and most of the tools I own but I got them all detached from the frame. I even had a notion to start removing the flooring but I ended up with a bad case of the "old mans" and my back decided I should watch some football and have a couple beers.

I went to the lumber yard "Menards" and priced out the Marine grade AB plywood. They didn't have 5/8ths so it will be a week before its in. Bummer. I thought with the motivation I have right now I might have my winter work done before winter.

I also called around to some local places and found 4x12 sheets of 5052 for $60. I think that is decent. If not let me know and I will keep looking or use something else.

I am still really intimidated about replacing the belly pan. It is the one thing that has me up at night figuring things when I should be sleeping.

I want to get started on it so I can sleep again...
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Old 09-19-2016, 04:51 PM   #105
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For me, the toughest part is always PREPPING to install the belly pan. I start worrying if I have all of the drains in the right place. Did I leave slack in the brake wiring? Is the floor the right shape? ( I don't want to have to remove the corners when I find the shell doesn't fit. ) I install it with the frame upside down, is the floor/frame flat or am I about to install the belly with a twist in the frame?

That's what wakes me up at night. Well, that and an aching right arm from reaching out and drilling all of those dang 3/16 large head rivet holes.
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Old 09-20-2016, 05:17 AM   #106
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For me, the toughest part is always PREPPING to install the belly pan. I start worrying if I have all of the drains in the right place. Did I leave slack in the brake wiring? Is the floor the right shape? ( I don't want to have to remove the corners when I find the shell doesn't fit. ) I install it with the frame upside down, is the floor/frame flat or am I about to install the belly with a twist in the frame?

That's what wakes me up at night. Well, that and an aching right arm from reaching out and drilling all of those dang 3/16 large head rivet holes.
Oh great, I have more to think about now.
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Old 09-20-2016, 07:06 AM   #107
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but I ended up with a bad case of the "old mans" and my back decided I should watch some football and have a couple beers.

I went to the lumber yard "Menards" and priced out the Marine grade AB plywood. They didn't have 5/8ths so it will be a week before its in.
Well I hope you did not watch the Packer game...it SUCKED

Here is a thought for the floor...use regular plywood and in the areas of known water intrusion saturate this area with a thinned down epoxy approx. 50/50 and then one coat of straight epoxy. In my boat rebuilding experience we did this for areas where marine plywood was not essential or we did not have it at our disposal at the time.
Another thought is that depending on your age...the last floor lasted how long?? Do you really need a marine ply floor?
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Old 09-20-2016, 03:13 PM   #108
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Well I hope you did not watch the Packer game...it SUCKED

Here is a thought for the floor...use regular plywood and in the areas of known water intrusion saturate this area with a thinned down epoxy approx. 50/50 and then one coat of straight epoxy. In my boat rebuilding experience we did this for areas where marine plywood was not essential or we did not have it at our disposal at the time.
Another thought is that depending on your age...the last floor lasted how long?? Do you really need a marine ply floor?
I did watch the Packer game. Well, until half time, then I went to sleep. I am glad I didnt waste any more time than that.

There sure seems to be plenty of opinions on material and technique for replacing the subfloor. I have driven myself mad reading forums. You make a good point that the floor lasted 60 years. I hate to spend where I dont have to but I wont be happy with myself if I take short cuts either. I like the resin saturation idea. Maybe if I do that I can take Sylvi out on the lake too?
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I got the aft section of flooring removed today. Use the "drill the hole around the elevator" trick. Worked well. The frame looks remarkably decent except for the very aft piece.
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Old 09-28-2016, 01:08 PM   #110
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Questions

Like many on here I obsess about the details. That is how things go smooth and you make fewer mistakes. My questions revolve around the belly pan...

Will 2 4' wide sheets joined in the middle be enough to cover from side to side? I measure a little over 7 feet of subfloor. Doing the math it seems close and if there is much overlap at the seam at the bottom it might not reach the edges of the c channel.

Will 4 each 4x10 sheets be enough or will I need 4x12 sheets?

I intend to replace the axle with a torsion axle. How much different will the profile be? I assume I should wait until the axle is replaced to start on belly? Am I missing something?
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Like many on here I obsess about the details. That is how things go smooth and you make fewer mistakes. My questions revolve around the belly pan...

Will 2 4' wide sheets joined in the middle be enough to cover from side to side? I measure a little over 7 feet of subfloor. Doing the math it seems close and if there is much overlap at the seam at the bottom it might not reach the edges of the c channel.

Will 4 each 4x10 sheets be enough or will I need 4x12 sheets?

I intend to replace the axle with a torsion axle. How much different will the profile be? I assume I should wait until the axle is replaced to start on belly? Am I missing something?
Yes, 4' wide sheets fit perfectly. I used 10' long sheets which didn't make the length, so I have a 4' section right under the axles. My belly pan is 5 pieces, but I'm sure if you use 12' stock you can do it in 4. Don't stress over the belly pan, it's easier than you think it will be, and if you mess up a sheet it's not too god awful expensive.
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Thanks DD. 4 4x12 sheets then. And I will stop worrying about it 😀.


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I have been making slow progress. I only have the front sheet of flooring to replace and I will have that done tonight. The frame looks good. I only the aft most cross piece to replace that was under the lav. I am getting about a sheet done per day, after work, after the kids go to bed, I drill all my clearance holes. Cut off any rusty bits that need. Pry the floor up and out. Scrape insulation. Pound out screw shafts. Scrape some more. Transfer the new sheet on. Back drill existing holes. Lock everything in place. Put the old piece on and transfer any clean holes if I can. Take it off and lay the c channel down where my now fresh pilots are. Transfer the rest of the holes into place into the new floor. Change, shower, and go to bed.
Repeat.
I have a welder lined up to replace the one piece and I will be shut down for a while on the frame after that. I intend to get a new axle ordered sometime in January. I won’t get to the belly until after then. I have the door off and in my garage and one window to work on until I get the rest of the windows out.

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Did you decide to stay with regular plywood?
Enjoying your posts, because soon I will be going down the same slippery slope
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Did you decide to stay with regular plywood?

Enjoying your posts, because soon I will be going down the same slippery slope

I used ACX plywood. A and C on the faces X is exterior grade. I intend to epoxy the sheets after trimming so I didn't think it would make a difference with $150 sheets of marine grade if I was going to do that anyway.

I used 3/4. I think it will be perfect. It is a little smaller than a nominal 3/4. Plus without the flooring underneath drops the channel down to the exact same spot (ish).


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The subfloor replacement is done. I feel really good about that. I meant to take a picture of the floors done but I forgot. Oh well. Trailer is hooked up being hauled away for repair, blasting, powder coating. Pictures of A beautiful stripped-down frame and my finished flooring. Ha ha that's the only picture I have of it.Click image for larger version

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So this is strange to me. If you look at the pictures of my previous post of the frame there is an outrigger that appears to be missing. It would be the very first one that would be in line. There is a little 45 degree support on the right hand side but not on the left hand side. I tried to point it out on the picture below. There is a red arrow pointing to the one that is there and the space that appears to be missing. I checked the frame closely and there has never been anything welded into that spot. The frame is clean there. It doesn't appear to be ground on or rusty. It still has the black paint. It seams like a big span not to have any support. I would like to add one the same as the other side. Does anyone have any idea about this?
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That's really interesting

Yes, mine has a matching outrigger on the other side, I would add it. So much for Airstream factory build quality.

"Hey Ed, don't put the floor on, you're missing an outrigger up front"

"Yeah, but it's just the little one, and it's beer-thirty"

"Here, let me help you with that sheet..."
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Yes, mine has a matching outrigger on the other side, I would add it. So much for Airstream factory build quality.

"Hey Ed, don't put the floor on, you're missing an outrigger up front"

"Yeah, but it's just the little one, and it's beer-thirty"

"Here, let me help you with that sheet..."
Thanks for the info and the pic. It didnt seem right that there was nothing there. I must have a Friday model.

"Hey Ed, did you get that last rigger on? We want to put the floor on."

"Ed left early today! He said he wanted a long weekend."

"Oh well, we gotta get this done."
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I see where this hobby can get addicting.

I came across a 26' 1964 Overlander this weekend. I went and looked at it since I was close. The exterior was OK. A couple small dents needed to be pushed out. A cobbled repair to the water heater door would need a do-over. Overall not that bad.

The interior was original. Except for a couple pieces of veneer that were pealing at the bottom of a couple panels it was in really good shape.

Everything was there. It would only take a few hours of cleaning and you could be on the road with it and camping. I thought to myself, I don't have a 26'er, I could be using it right away, I have space to park it, I could take more time with the Caravanner and not feel rushed, and there would be more space for the five of us. The price was towards the high end but its a family friend so if I was serious I should be able to get a different price.

In the end I walked away. I know, I am disappointed. I am the first one to say that if you find it, buy it. You may not find it again. But, I also don't want too many projects that none of them get done. So I walked. Hopefully I can find it again.
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