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Old 08-14-2016, 09:03 PM   #57
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I think they call that "Modular Construction"
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:42 PM   #58
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Vintage airstream for sale. Solid subfloor. Might just need a little patch. Ha ha.

I pulled the four bolts from the toilet. I yanked up on the toilet and the entire toile, black tank, and plumbing came with it. The floor provided no resistance.


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LMFAO, in a good way. Plus I'm a retired SWO laughing at a brown shoe.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:33 PM   #59
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Mine had the Double floor replacement with the gold carpet option.

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Old 08-16-2016, 06:33 AM   #60
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LMFAO, in a good way. Plus I'm a retired SWO laughing at a brown shoe.

Brown shoe... Hadn't heard that in a while. But I take it as a compliment and with pride.

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Mine had the Double floor replacement with the gold carpet option.



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Thanks for the link. Unbelievable pictures. Another rabbit hole to go down. I am up early before kids, drinking coffee, reading your thread.


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Old 08-17-2016, 08:10 AM   #61
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It's amazing after all these years the skin on the inside looks like new.

But... I can't believe how much work there is just to get the shell to a point that I could insulate again someday. All the screws that are punched through the skin have to be replaced. The is a rib up front that joins two exterior skins that was totally missed when riveted. There are various places of light shining through. Not to mention all the buck tails that need to be removed that I drilled the heads off.

This is going to be so much fun 😬


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Old 08-17-2016, 06:49 PM   #64
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Tonight I cleaned out the mess I made when I removed the skins. The insulation wasn't so bad it was what was left of critters, critter houses, and critter leftovers. In the back, above the window, when I removed the big panel, I stood underneath it and it "rained" down around me.

The smell and disgusting don't even come close.


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Old 08-18-2016, 08:18 AM   #65
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So much work, so much fun

It's an insane amount of work, somewhere I read an estimate of 800 - 2000 hours to do a Full Monty. I haven't been keeping track, but that feels about right. If you decide to do your windows I think you'll find that's about 1/2 of it
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I think your estimate is about right. It could be low for those of us with OCD to make sure everything is perfect.

Is that buck tail 1.5 diameter?

That sealant needs to be feathered a bit more.

Screws into the skin? Nope that should be a doubler with nut plates.

What's with burs and jagged edges? Going to have to clean that up.

Don't even get me started on edge distance.

My family may never see me again.


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Old 08-18-2016, 05:14 PM   #67
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What did we ever do without lithium ion impact drills?


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Old 08-18-2016, 07:35 PM   #68
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Progress today. The inside is clean and shiny. I tried removing the belt on the front and back but I got 6 screws that won't budge. I tried turning from the inside but they just broke off. 😡

I then tried drilling but I just polished the heads and couldn't get a bite with my bit. I didn't have any cobalt drill bits. I am going to get one tomorrow and give it a go.

I pulled one window and frame to satisfy my curiosity. It wasn't too bad. The window pieces actually looked pretty good but who knows with 8 more to go what I will find.

I drilled every other rivet on the perimeter so when I get a day to go for removal I am partially there.



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Old 08-20-2016, 05:20 PM   #69
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I know what I think in my head doesn't always happen. I had expected to have the shell off already and have the trailer home. The airforums voices tell me, "its a lot of work" and "its more than you will expect". But dang... I didn't even get close to where I thought I would be by now. I thought I would be cleaned up, tucked away, and starting on subfloor. Not even close. I still have labor day weekend to get the frame home for the winter. Now I am nervous because how I little I got done to my plan and not much more time to go.

Side question. Windows. I removed the full frame from the shell. I hope That was right. I don't see how to replace the seal if you don't. I had to drill off the window to get to the rivets at the top of frame corners. I didn't see another way but now I wonder how to get them back on. What kind of rivets hold the window to the hinge? I used a #40 to drill but that seemed small and the rivets drilled out like they were hollow? At my pace I need an answer in about 16 years.
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Considering you started less than a month ago and took 2 weeks off, you're making good time. Winter will slow you down in the UP, but still plenty you can work on when it's cold out.
At some point AS used explosive rivets, which would seem hollow when drilling them out. I can't say for sure also haven't worked on a '57 or its windows so they may have been hollow. You can probably replace them with either solid rivets or tubular rivets and a rivet squeezer. VTS has them both. If you drilled them out with #40 drill bit they were likely 3/32 rivets, so you'll probably have to drill up to 7/64 or 1/8 rivets.
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