This is my first post on the forum. I'm a real newbie at Airstream trailers so I need some questions answered.
I found a trailer today, an Overlander, made in Calif. I've copied down the following information:
M-4 S-0659 2512 Doh#14416
26TS S0659 6203
I'm assuming the 26 means 26 feet long. What about the TS? And can anyone tell me what all the other numbers mean?
On the outside, the trailer has a few "dings"...........nothing that can't be fixed. The top must have leaked because there is some kind of grey roofing paint on it. The lady won't let me see inside because she want's to clean it first. I did notice it has a channel frame and not pipe. I wasn't really looking for a 26 foot trailer...........probably something smaller like an 18 Footer, but if the price she is asking is a fair one, I might bite.
This is my first post on the forum. I'm a real newbie at Airstream trailers so I need some questions answered.
On the outside, the trailer has a few "dings"...........nothing that can't be fixed. The top must have leaked because there is some kind of grey roofing paint on it. The lady won't let me see inside because she want's to clean it first. I did notice it has a channel frame and not pipe. I wasn't really looking for a 26 foot trailer...........probably something smaller like an 18 Footer, but if the price she is asking is a fair one, I might bite.
Any help on this?
Whoo-hoo. Nothing as exciting as looking for a new project is there? A friend just tipped me off about www.craigslist.org . It just ticks me off that I'm on the wrong coast. Go there and do a search for "Airstream" or "travel trailer". Right now there is an Argosy that looks Very interesting - and there are several smaller Airstreams.
Well I know the 26 is for feet, the T is for rear twin beds the second S is for Jackson Center Ohio where it would have been made, but that first S I would have thought was for Soverign, but since it's not, I don't really know. Go to "search" and see what you can find. "Ken" on the forum is the one to write to. He knows everything.
The numbering system is not the same every year. This link shows the difference between the late 60's through the end of the seventy's. http://www.airstream.com/airstream/p...pre1980vin.pdf
This is my quess as to the vin number:
The first T is for the twin bed arangement
The first S is really a 5 for 1975
The second S is California
Also the 6203 number could be the WBCCI number if the PO was a member. If so, it is most likely large red numerals on the front and rear of the trailer. More information an be found by searching WBCCI with the search tool.
Good luck if you buy it and keep looking if you don't.
No Red Numbers on front or back. I realize without seeing it, this is really an unfair question, but what would a fairly decent trailer like this be worth? I don't even know where to start when talking with her about price. Oh yes, she said it was a 1962.........she thought.
Check out this link: http://www.vintageairstream.com/rr_t...condition.html
Take a look at the condition and do the math. The prices on this chart have not been updated for a while, I would expect them to be a little higher.
No Red Numbers on front or back. I realize without seeing it, this is really an unfair question, but what would a fairly decent trailer like this be worth? I don't even know where to start when talking with her about price. Oh yes, she said it was a 1962.........she thought.
One place to look for help in establishing a value on a Vintage Coach is R. J. Dial's websit and the Price vs. Condition page -- see:
I suspect that 1962 may be correct as during the 1970s the Overlander was sold as a 27' coach while during much of the 1960s it was sold as a 26' coach. One clue would be the front window -- if the front window is a single unit, it would pre-date 1969 -- if the front window has a pair of side or wing windows, it is likely a post 1968. Also, if it has an entry door with a door-within-a-door arrangement it would be a pre-1965 coach (the small door inside of the regular entrance door opens to expose the screen door). The curbside photo of my '64 Overlander shows the two characteristics of the pre-1965 coaches -- the door-within-a-door and the jalousie window(s) beside the door (a '62 would be quite similar).
Good luck with your investigation. While it may seem large, the Overlander is actually a nice size coach from a towing standpoint -- in many ways it is easier to tow than my single-axle 6.0 Metre Minuet. Fully loaded for an extended trip, my '64 Overlander has a gross weight of approximately 6,100 pounds with a gross hitch weight of about 750 to 775 pounds.
Kevin
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1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400 VORTEC/4.11 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)
Welcome! I'm certain the first set of numbers that you posted...
M-4 S-0659 2512
Doh#14416
...are from a Dept. of Housing tag stating the trailer passes inspection and/or meets the current housing code in CA when the trailer was built. These numbers & letters are general to trailers built at the time and not particular to your trailer. Pretty generic stuff.
The second set of numbers relay to this individual trailer and would have been found on a different metal tag along side the DOH tag. These are the serial numbers that identify your individual coach.
Hope this helps. Others have explained your particular numbers but didn't identify the first set. As a newbie, I thought this info may help. Good luck on your decision and let us know the outcome.
Another good tool is Ebay, do a advanced search, use Airstream and the year it was made,it should help in a price,There are photos and discriptions there, once you start it becomes a mission !!! I have been on a mission for a year and half !!!!! good luck and if you get it ,,,Enjoy it
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Thanks for all your help and suggestions. I believe this trailer is in an "As Found" condition. I've not seen the inside, but I know it has been sitting in the same spot for the past 6 years..............and heaven knows how much longer than that. It was used as an extra bedroom by the family when the "black sheep" son returned home. It wouldn't surprise me if it's a disaster inside. The lady who owns it says she's painted the interior 3 different times since they bought it new. They also replaced the toilet and hot water heater. (She did say she didn't think the HWH had ever even been fired up, though!)I'm beginning to think it's going to cost way more than I can afford to fix it up. And what I'd really like to have is a Bambi or Caravel anyway. Think I'll pass on this one.
It doesn't have a sign on it. I just stopped by the property and asked if they were interested in selling it and she said "probably" and told me she couldn't possibly take less than $2,000 for it. On the surface, to a newbie like me, that sounds pretty fair....................but after all the reading I've done, it sounds a little high and with the cost of reconditioning, think I'd be better off waiting.
It doesn't have a sign on it. I just stopped by the property and asked if they were interested in selling it and she said "probably" and told me she couldn't possibly take less than $2,000 for it. On the surface, to a newbie like me, that sounds pretty fair....................but after all the reading I've done, it sounds a little high and with the cost of reconditioning, think I'd be better off waiting.
Thanks again for all your help.
Chris,
I don't think that price is too out of line unless it is totally trashed. I looked at an 88 25' Excella today that the "asking" price was $10k...it had bad axles, no curtains, 2/3 of the orginal interior was missing, 4 miss matched tires, no battery, non OPD tanks and some moderate panel denting on the front roof segments. I just hope someone doesn't pay that price for it.
Aaron
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